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GabyKeepsMeWarm 01-31-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Davisj77 (Post 16782028)
Don’t worry the media LOOOVES the MAHOMES family ! They will shove them down our throats during sb week ! Every goddamn MAHOMES will get camera time ! They shove that diversity up our noses ! You are safe ! Who are the EAGLES who cares? Brittany the airhead will get plenty of MIC sessions to talk about nothing .

GO EAGLES!

Tried to read some of that. Quit.

Then I read the last line as "Go Bagels"

So that's what I'm gonna say now. The Philadelphia Bagels. The San Fransico Treat.

smithandrew051 01-31-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Davisj77 (Post 16782028)
Don’t worry the media LOOOVES the MAHOMES family ! They will shove them down our throats during sb week ! Every goddamn MAHOMES will get camera time ! They shove that diversity up our noses ! You are safe ! Who are the EAGLES who cares? Brittany the airhead will get plenty of MIC sessions to talk about nothing .

GO EAGLES!

I really hope that Rihanna brings out Jackson Mahomes to participate in the halftime show.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 01-31-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16782057)
I really hope that Rihanna brings out Jackson Mahomes to participate in the halftime show.

It's all about the booty.

Shakira/J-Lo, lots O' booty.

Weeknd, no booty, lots O' musical plagiarism.

Rihanna post child, LOTS O' booty.

We probably shouldn't even play the game.

Bearcat 01-31-2023 05:55 PM

I miss the Bengals fans. :(


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raybec 4 01-31-2023 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16782066)
I miss the Bengals fans. :(


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HC_Chief 01-31-2023 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16782047)
Again, you must not have a functioning TV or basic cable. It sucks Clevon, but the trailer park is so much better with you in it.

More like no functioning prefrontal cortex.

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Titty Meat 01-31-2023 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16782047)
Again, you must not have a functioning TV or basic cable. It sucks Clevon, but the trailer park is so much better with you in it.

He would be a hero in the DC sub

Kiimo 01-31-2023 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Davisj77 (Post 16782028)
They shove that diversity up our noses !



Okay get the **** outta here, bitchass

ToxSocks 01-31-2023 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Davisj77 (Post 16782028)
They shove that diversity up our noses !

A little diversity wouldn't hurt ya, considering how many dicks you've had shoved up your nose.

Skyy God 01-31-2023 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Davisj77 (Post 16781853)
And what ? AFC was stacked with powerhouses? Poser BUFF vs ladies in Red KC ? NFC plays as a team ! Just like last yrs sb ! All we heard about was CIN will roll ! Joe borrow is the next goat ! Rams will absolutely get destroyed! Too much hot air in the AFC ! Not much substance

Don’t huff paint, kids.

cmd227 01-31-2023 06:44 PM

The Trenches
 
Hello Chiefs fans. We look forward to the impending battle with your great football team. This one may go down as a classic so buckle up. Been a fan of the Birds since 1980 and it's been a roller coaster ride ever since. Some incredibly great moments along the way mixed in with utter disappointment at times.

This team is the best Eagles team in my lifetime. They can only play the games on their schedule and should not be at fault for that. Inuries have escaped this team for the most part and this is certainly an anamolie we are not used to. In the trenches is where they impose their will. The continuity of both lines has been growing all year with the results being self evident.

My biggest concern for this game is obviously Mahomes. His escapability, arm angle throws, field generaling, decision making, etc... is a tall task for any defense. The Eagles best defense for that is going to have to be their offense, especially with running the rock. It's all going to come down to the trenches. Go Birds!

Bump 01-31-2023 07:15 PM

You won't see Andy Reid acting like this during the Superbowl. I didn't watch the game so I wasn't even aware of how ridiculous their coach is (I'm only interested in my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs).

NSFW swearing

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Sassy Squatch 01-31-2023 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782230)
Hello Chiefs fans. We look forward to the impending battle with your great football team. This one may go down as a classic so buckle up. Been a fan of the Birds since 1980 and it's been a roller coaster ride ever since. Some incredibly great moments along the way mixed in with utter disappointment at times.

This team is the best Eagles team in my lifetime. They can only play the games on their schedule and should not be at fault for that. Inuries have escaped this team for the most part and this is certainly an anamolie we are not used to. In the trenches is where they impose their will. The continuity of both lines has been growing all year with the results being self evident.

My biggest concern for this game is obviously Mahommes. His escapability, arm angle throws, field generaling, decision making, etc... is a tall task for any defense. The Eagles best defense for that is going to have to be their offense, especially with running the rock. It's all going to come down to the trenches. Go Birds!

See?!? Even the ones that appear to be sophisticated and well spoken on the surface can't spell for shit.

Bearcat 01-31-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782230)
They can only play the games on their schedule and should not be at fault for that.

https://y.yarn.co/2d3505f1-f45c-467b...ae1d3_text.gif


If you give a kid a math test that consists of simple 2+2 types of problems for 4 months, then tell him he'll be taking an advanced calculus test in 2 weeks.... you wouldn't blame the kid for being given simple math problems for 4 months, but you also wouldn't analyze his test grades and come to the conclusion that he's ready for the advanced calc test.

tredadda 01-31-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782230)
Hello Chiefs fans. We look forward to the impending battle with your great football team. This one may go down as a classic so buckle up. Been a fan of the Birds since 1980 and it's been a roller coaster ride ever since. Some incredibly great moments along the way mixed in with utter disappointment at times.

This team is the best Eagles team in my lifetime. They can only play the games on their schedule and should not be at fault for that. Inuries have escaped this team for the most part and this is certainly an anamolie we are not used to. In the trenches is where they impose their will. The continuity of both lines has been growing all year with the results being self evident.

My biggest concern for this game is obviously Mahommes. His escapability, arm angle throws, field generaling, decision making, etc... is a tall task for any defense. The Eagles best defense for that is going to have to be their offense, especially with running the rock. It's all going to come down to the trenches. Go Birds!

Welcome to the board. Good input.

BleedingRed 01-31-2023 07:29 PM

**** the e-girls

rydogg58 01-31-2023 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782230)
Hello Chiefs fans. We look forward to the impending battle with your great football team. This one may go down as a classic so buckle up. Been a fan of the Birds since 1980 and it's been a roller coaster ride ever since. Some incredibly great moments along the way mixed in with utter disappointment at times.

This team is the best Eagles team in my lifetime. They can only play the games on their schedule and should not be at fault for that. Inuries have escaped this team for the most part and this is certainly an anamolie we are not used to. In the trenches is where they impose their will. The continuity of both lines has been growing all year with the results being self evident.

My biggest concern for this game is obviously Mahommes. His escapability, arm angle throws, field generaling, decision making, etc... is a tall task for any defense. The Eagles best defense for that is going to have to be their offense, especially with running the rock. It's all going to come down to the trenches. Go Birds!

I think Hertz is a good qb. Not as good as Enterprise, since they pick you up.

cmd227 01-31-2023 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16782324)
See?!? Even the ones that appear to be sophisticated and well spoken on the surface can't spell for shit.

Thanks for the compliment. Being from Delco, I have never been called sophisticated before. Besides insults, do you have any football insight into the game you can enlighten us with? What's your biggest concern if any? How do you think Bieniemy will attack the Eagles D? How will Spags defend against the RPO and the run game? Are the two rookie corners a concern going against AJ and the Slim Reaper?

tredadda 01-31-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782491)
Thanks for the compliment. Being from Delco, I have never been called sophisticated before. Besides insults, do you have any football insight into the game you can enlighten us with? What's your biggest concern if any? How do you think Bellamy will attack the Eagles D? How will Spags defend against the RPO and the run game? Are the two rookie corners a concern going against AJ and the Slim Reaper?

Biggest concerns are not being healthy for the SB as well as our OTs not being turnstiles against the Eagles pass rush.

As we have no one named Bellamy, don't care how he would attack the Eagles D.

Spags will defend the RPO like always has. That will be easier if Hurts is still nursing an injury that affects his ability to throw the ball.

Our rookie corners more than held their own against Chase and Higgins. If they can hold their own against those two, I am confident in their ability to cover Brown and Smith.

DJay23 01-31-2023 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782230)

My biggest concern for this game is obviously Mahommes.

MAHOMES

rydogg58 01-31-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782491)
Thanks for the compliment. Being from Delco, I have never been called sophisticated before. Besides insults, do you have any football insight into the game you can enlighten us with? What's your biggest concern if any? How do you think Bellamy will attack the Eagles D? How will Spags defend against the RPO and the run game? Are the two rookie corners a concern going against AJ and the Slim Reaper?

I used to know a guy named Bellamy. Back when we were kids he was a pretty good Tecmo Super Bowl player. He'd always pick the Bengals because if David Fulcher was in Excellent condition, you knew he was going to leap 4 screens and intercept everything. I know that doesn't answer your question but I haven't spoken to Bellamy in years so I have no idea how he would attack the Eagles D if he was now an NFL coach.

raybec 4 01-31-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16782551)
MAHOMES

Mahommmes and Bellamy are a deadly combo

jerryaldini 01-31-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782491)
How do you think Bellamy will attack the Eagles D?

Funny you ask, I happened to hear from Bellamy last night and he said he's going with those standard Philly issue D cell batteries they always cell in bulk outside the stadium.

PHOG 01-31-2023 09:38 PM

Bellamy? :spock:

Kman34 01-31-2023 09:40 PM

With a song..

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Pasta Little Brioni 01-31-2023 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782491)
Thanks for the compliment. Being from Delco, I have never been called sophisticated before. Besides insults, do you have any football insight into the game you can enlighten us with? What's your biggest concern if any? How do you think Bellamy will attack the Eagles D? How will Spags defend against the RPO and the run game? Are the two rookie corners a concern going against AJ and the Slim Reaper?

Well considering a better QB in Burrow with better weapons struggled mightily other than 3 jump ball prayers...I'd say ya

New World Order 01-31-2023 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmd227 (Post 16782491)
Thanks for the compliment. Being from Delco, I have never been called sophisticated before. Besides insults, do you have any football insight into the game you can enlighten us with? What's your biggest concern if any? How do you think Bellamy will attack the Eagles D? How will Spags defend against the RPO and the run game? Are the two rookie corners a concern going against AJ and the Slim Reaper?

I will tell you I was more worried about the Bengals than the Eagles. Eagles don’t have the offense the bengals have.

Plus with your d, Dak put up 30+ on you guys a few weeks ago.

Dak Prescott

chiefforlife 01-31-2023 11:16 PM

Eagles are a well built team. Howie is very good at acquiring talent. They are built from the lines out. That D line is deep as well, they had a damn good D line and Howie still traded for Quinn, signed Suh, Linval Joseph, Hasan Reddick, Javon Hargrave. Then added to the secondary with James Bradberry and CJ Gardner-Johnson.

Traded for AJ Brown who can take over a game. Devonta Smith (Slim Reaper) great nickname is amazing as well. Those two with Goedert is a top receiving corp.. Hurts took a huge step forward this year, I wasnt that impressed with him prior to this year. Same with Miles Sanders but he has continued to get better all year.

This team is no joke. They deserve to be in the Superbowl and will be a very tough out.

The Chiefs fear no one nor should they. The two BEST teams are in the Superbowl, gonna be a great game.

Chiefs have been here, have seen it all by now. We have faced the top defense in the league and shredded them, we faced the Goat and shredded them. We have faced Lamar (Hurts daddy) and beat them!

The Eagles have not seen anything like the Chiefs! They have not played the #1 Offense. They have not played the best QB ever!
If the Chiefs can get mostly healthy, they will win this game. I have no doubt!

GO CHIEFS!!

philfree 01-31-2023 11:26 PM

After watching the NFCC again I just don't see either team win over the Chiefs.

They can't touch this! The Eagles can't touch this!

Brooklyn 02-01-2023 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 16782580)
I used to know a guy named Bellamy. Back when we were kids he was a pretty good Tecmo Super Bowl player. He'd always pick the Bengals because if David Fulcher was in Excellent condition, you knew he was going to leap 4 screens and intercept everything. I know that doesn't answer your question but I haven't spoken to Bellamy in years so I have no idea how he would attack the Eagles D if he was now an NFL coach.


Fully respect the deep Tecmo knowledge and understanding of the game. excellent condition was a real game changer.

More than 50% of my love of the Chiefs as a non native KC person is for Tecmo Super Bowl. I used to wreck with Robb Thomas, believe it or not. Okoye was the popcorn master!

Ironic that years later we would get Herm Edwards and the identical playbook.


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TwistedChief 02-01-2023 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn (Post 16782923)
Fully respect the deep Tecmo knowledge and understanding of the game. excellent condition was a real game changer.

More than 50% of my love of the Chiefs as a non native KC person is for Tecmo Super Bowl. I used to wreck with Robb Thomas, believe it or not. Okoye was the popcorn master!

Ironic that years later we would get Herm Edwards and the identical playbook.


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I’m only a Chiefs fan because of Tecmo Super Bowl and Okoye. My only connection to KC.

What a game.

MIAdragon 02-01-2023 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16782935)
I’m only a Chiefs fan because of Tecmo Super Bowl and Okoye. My only connection to KC.

What a game.

Thank god I didn’t follow that path. Was obsessed with the Bo Jackson sweep, unstoppable!

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2023 07:50 AM

Christian Okoye is the sophisticated gentleman's broken HB from Tecmo. Degenerates like me use Bo Jackson.

Youngbuck17 02-01-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16781700)
Lol, he was never gonna win the MVP. That's just annual talking head bullshit since Josh Allen imploded and they needed SOMEONE to rival Mahomes.

I could be wrong, but I believe that Vegas odds had Hurts leading for a few weeks to win MVP. I can't check right now but I'm fairly certain of that. Vegas doesn't do "talking head bullsh*t". Again, someone can fact check me on the odds, but I'm fairly certain I'm correct.

tredadda 02-01-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16782935)
I’m only a Chiefs fan because of Tecmo Super Bowl and Okoye. My only connection to KC.

What a game.

I loved Barry Sanders. I would always take the kickoff or punt, run backwards to the 1 yard line and on my first play run a sweep for 99 yards. Wash rinse repeat. By the end of the game he would have unearthly numbers.

smithandrew051 02-01-2023 10:26 AM

Josh Sills. ****ing yikes.

smithandrew051 02-01-2023 10:28 AM

https://www.inquirer.com/news/joshua...outputType=amp

Gary Cooper 02-01-2023 10:36 AM

If the Eagles play the cap wisely, there's no reason they shouldn't contend for years. The NFC is relatively weak, especially at QB.

ThaVirus 02-01-2023 10:51 AM

I thought the same about that 2017 Super Bowl winning Eagles squad. They looked primed to compete for more rings over the next 5 years easily, but then they just collapsed.

It's weird that they were able to build such dominant rosters 5 years apart with completely different coaching/QB.

Hammock Parties 02-01-2023 11:03 AM

eagles DC is conservative

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge test for Gannon, who loves to go soft shell vs high volume passers... If Mahomes is allowed to complete +70% as he did last yr against the Birds, Eagles gonna have to score 50 to win...</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620172050865487873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">True... And obviously the D has been stellar this yr.. <br><br>but there were still a few games, like the Saints &amp; Cowboys where they allowed ridiculously high completion percentages .. <br><br>I mean if Juju and MVS beat you then God bless&#39;em, but you cannot sit back in a shell vs Mahomes</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620218801097953280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 02-01-2023 11:04 AM

eagles run D looks soft

pachecho could have a big game

Chieftain 02-01-2023 11:11 AM

Eagles fans talking a lot of arrogant shit of how their team is so loaded on both sides of the ball and they will win the game by double digits. Maybe they need to try another piece of that Mahomes humble pie?
Same one whiners fans got a taste of in 2019 with an arguably deeper roster at the time?

Gary Cooper 02-01-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16783504)
eagles run D looks soft

pachecho could have a big game

They're about middle of the pack. The run game also depends on the health of the WRs. The Bengals shut down KC's run game, partly because the Chiefs had few passing threats remaining. The Bengals didn't respect the replacement WRs.

staylor26 02-01-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 16783534)
They're about middle of the pack. The run game also depends on the health of the WRs. The Bengals shut down KC's run game, partly because the Chiefs had few passing threats remaining. The Bengals didn't respect the replacement WRs.

A bit misleading considering they're usually playing with a big lead.

Did you even watch the NFCCG? They couldn't stop the 49ers run game when they knew it was all they had.

duncan_idaho 02-01-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16783500)
eagles DC is conservative

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge test for Gannon, who loves to go soft shell vs high volume passers... If Mahomes is allowed to complete +70% as he did last yr against the Birds, Eagles gonna have to score 50 to win...</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620172050865487873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">True... And obviously the D has been stellar this yr.. <br><br>but there were still a few games, like the Saints &amp; Cowboys where they allowed ridiculously high completion percentages .. <br><br>I mean if Juju and MVS beat you then God bless&#39;em, but you cannot sit back in a shell vs Mahomes</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620218801097953280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Quite the turn from last year, when all the talk was about running shells and making Mahomes frustrated with it.

Youngbuck17 02-01-2023 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16783500)
eagles DC is conservative

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Huge test for Gannon, who loves to go soft shell vs high volume passers... If Mahomes is allowed to complete +70% as he did last yr against the Birds, Eagles gonna have to score 50 to win...</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620172050865487873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">True... And obviously the D has been stellar this yr.. <br><br>but there were still a few games, like the Saints &amp; Cowboys where they allowed ridiculously high completion percentages .. <br><br>I mean if Juju and MVS beat you then God bless&#39;em, but you cannot sit back in a shell vs Mahomes</p>&mdash; Al B Where the Money Reside (@ALBDamn) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALBDamn/status/1620218801097953280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is my biggest fear and frustration with Gannon. He is convinced that against better QBs you play that soft shell. Well that's when you get those 70%+ completion rates and the opposing offense marches down the field. Gannon has even pulled this with lesser passers and helped make them look like all pros. The personnel is there. The scheme? That's where the inconsistencies happen. I was really hoping Gannon would get a HC job since he was being looked at by a number of teams. Perhaps he'll let his DBs play press, but I doubt it.

Mecca 02-01-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Youngbuck17 (Post 16783574)
This is my biggest fear and frustration with Gannon. He is convinced that against better QBs you play that soft shell. Well that's when you get those 70%+ completion rates and the opposing offense marches down the field. Gannon has even pulled this with lesser passers and helped make them look like all pros. The personnel is there. The scheme? That's where the inconsistencies happen. I was really hoping Gannon would get a HC job since he was being looked at by a number of teams. Perhaps he'll let his DBs play press, but I doubt it.

He thinks that if he makes a team run 12 play drives they'll either get a penalty or they'll get sacks and that'll end the drive...

Great offenses just shred you when you do it, against bad teams yea it works.

tredadda 02-01-2023 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Youngbuck17 (Post 16783574)
This is my biggest fear and frustration with Gannon. He is convinced that against better QBs you play that soft shell. Well that's when you get those 70%+ completion rates and the opposing offense marches down the field. Gannon has even pulled this with lesser passers and helped make them look like all pros. The personnel is there. The scheme? That's where the inconsistencies happen. I was really hoping Gannon would get a HC job since he was being looked at by a number of teams. Perhaps he'll let his DBs play press, but I doubt it.

With Mahomes it won’t matter unless you get pressure on him early and often. Zone he shreds, as does man to man. If that Dline doesn’t get home he will have to blitz and hope.

Frazod 02-01-2023 11:40 AM

When was the last time the NFC had a truly dominant quarterback? In the AFC, for years it was the eternal three-headed monster of Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger reaching the heights. Now it's Mahomes, with Burrow and Allen playing also rans.

In the NFC, it's been a revolving door of flashes in the pan. Rodgers has been around forever and amassed a good deal of stats and personal glory, but at the end of the day, much like Favre before him, was one and done in Green Bay. Same with Brees in New Orleans. Wilson crapped out quickly in Seattle. Stafford won't be hoisting another Lombardi in L.A. Brady was one and done in Tampa. Warner went one out of three with two teams. Amazingly, Eli Manning is the only NFC quarterback to win two Super Bowls since the 90s but outside of being Brady's kryptonite he was an anomaly at best. And Dak Prescott? Please. He hasn't even made it to the pan to be a flash.

Perhaps Hurts will break the cycle, but obviously the jury's still out on that one. You really have to go back to Aikman or Montana to find anybody with staying power.

ToxSocks 02-01-2023 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Youngbuck17 (Post 16783574)
This is my biggest fear and frustration with Gannon. He is convinced that against better QBs you play that soft shell. Well that's when you get those 70%+ completion rates and the opposing offense marches down the field. Gannon has even pulled this with lesser passers and helped make them look like all pros. The personnel is there. The scheme? That's where the inconsistencies happen. I was really hoping Gannon would get a HC job since he was being looked at by a number of teams. Perhaps he'll let his DBs play press, but I doubt it.

MY biggest fear is that the Chiefs prepare for a heavy zone Eagles team and then Eagles coming out doing shit the Chiefs have never seen them do before, and then take an entire half to adjust.

Because that happens to them.

BUT, i do wonder if the reason ya'll are so zone heavy is because your DB's really aren't that great at man. There's a good possibility here that they're covering up a weakness.

O.city 02-01-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16783592)
MY biggest fear is that the Chiefs prepare for a heavy zone Eagles team and then Eagles coming out doing shit the Chiefs have never seen them do before, and then take an entire half to adjust.

Because that happens to them.

BUT, i do wonder if the reason ya'll are so zone heavy is because your DB's really aren't that great at man. There's a good possibility here that they're covering up a weakness.

When you have that front 7, specifically DL, playing man just brings too much risk into play. Sit back, play zone and wait for them to get home.

Mecca 02-01-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16783592)
MY biggest fear is that the Chiefs prepare for a heavy zone Eagles team and then Eagles coming out doing shit the Chiefs have never seen them do before, and then take an entire half to adjust.

Because that happens to them.

BUT, i do wonder if the reason ya'll are so zone heavy is because your DB's really aren't that great at man. There's a good possibility here that they're covering up a weakness.

It's super easy to sit in zone when you're getting 70 sacks, why risk giving up 50 yard plays when you assume you'll get a few sacks and stop drives?

The Eagles are hard to judge because all the stuff that has worked for them, works because they played terrible competition. They couldn't do shit to stop the Cowboys at all.

ToxSocks 02-01-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16783597)
When you have that front 7, specifically DL, playing man just brings too much risk into play. Sit back, play zone and wait for them to get home.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16783600)
It's super easy to sit in zone when you're getting 70 sacks, why risk giving up 50 yard plays when you assume you'll get a few sacks and stop drives?

We need to watch what happened vs Dallas and Detroit etc. Did they adjust out of their zones in those games or did they decide they'd rather give up 40 points than change it up?

Mecca 02-01-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16783604)
We need to watch what happened vs Dallas and Detroit etc. Did they adjust out of their zones in those games or did they decide they'd rather give up 40 points than change it up?

Considering they gave up 35 and 40 points I doubt they changed much...

staylor26 02-01-2023 11:48 AM

Packers, Lions, and Cowboys all dropped 30+ on that D.

ToxSocks 02-01-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16783609)
Packers, Lions, and Cowboys all dropped 30+ on that D.

Would love to know what % they played zone in those games.

If they sat in their zones most of those games that could mean 1 of 2 things to be true:

1. They don't like playing man because they're masking something here

or

2. Their DC is a stubborn SOB who won't change what they do no matter what.

I prefer option 2, but im happy with both.

Mecca 02-01-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16783609)
Packers, Lions, and Cowboys all dropped 30+ on that D.

Washington did too..

They literally didn't trail in the in the second half of a game until week 10, they trailed to the Colts for an entire game and won at the end.

The Eagles have basically got to play their game all year, there's a lot of things they haven't even had to go to. They never got behind by 14 points and had to air it out.

Right now though they are hiding Hurts, he's running far less than he did early in the year, dude threw for 270 yards in 2 playoff games combined.

seamonster 02-01-2023 12:37 PM

Eagles philosophy is to simplify the schemes and fall back on superior athletes. They've never had to adjust or change what they do... They just run the same simple shit they've always done but it's hard to stop because of the O\Dline and the running QB allow their athletes to play without thinking. They probably view the Chiefs as a one-trick pony and they'll be gunning to take down Mahomes and run the ball and take deep shots. Eagles won't have any motivation to cater a game plan around the Chiefs.

Youngbuck17 02-01-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16783614)
Would love to know what % they played zone in those games.

If they sat in their zones most of those games that could mean 1 of 2 things to be true:

1. They don't like playing man because they're masking something here

or

2. Their DC is a stubborn SOB who won't change what they do no matter what.

I prefer option 2, but im happy with both.

IMO, watching every game this year and last, it's option 2. Bradberry is a great corner but, admittedly, seems better in the zone. Slay can man up at an elite level, although near the end of the season he wasn't as successful. But his body of work speaks for him. Maddox, the Eagles slot receiver, is one of the best in the game when he's healthy. And that's been the issue for him.

Gannon is a stubborn guy and does not often make defensive adjustments. He trusts that his guys on the line will get home eventually and make the plays that turn the game. Rarely blitzes but does so a bit more than last year. I'll also admit that it's hard to argue against it all when the line does get home so often, and often leads to turnovers. But the scheme really does rely on the line being disruptive, which it usually is. However, my personal bias is to have a more aggressive (blitzing) defense. But I'm also not an NFL coach so what do I know?

Bearcat 02-01-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16783589)
When was the last time the NFC had a truly dominant quarterback? In the AFC, for years it was the eternal three-headed monster of Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger reaching the heights. Now it's Mahomes, with Burrow and Allen playing also rans.

In the NFC, it's been a revolving door of flashes in the pan. Rodgers has been around forever and amassed a good deal of stats and personal glory, but at the end of the day, much like Favre before him, was one and done in Green Bay. Same with Brees in New Orleans. Wilson crapped out quickly in Seattle. Stafford won't be hoisting another Lombardi in L.A. Brady was one and done in Tampa. Warner went one out of three with two teams. Amazingly, Eli Manning is the only NFC quarterback to win two Super Bowls since the 90s but outside of being Brady's kryptonite he was an anomaly at best. And Dak Prescott? Please. He hasn't even made it to the pan to be a flash.

Perhaps Hurts will break the cycle, but obviously the jury's still out on that one. You really have to go back to Aikman or Montana to find anybody with staying power.

It's insane to me, especially considering Favre + Rodgers over 3 decades have one title each and I think that was Rodgers' only NFCCG win, paired with the complete lack of parity in the AFC over 2+ decades.

Delhomme, Kaep, Rex ****ing Grossman, Cam Newton, Grapes.... yikes.

Gary Cooper 02-01-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16783589)
When was the last time the NFC had a truly dominant quarterback? In the AFC, for years it was the eternal three-headed monster of Brady, Manning and Roethlisberger reaching the heights. Now it's Mahomes, with Burrow and Allen playing also rans.

In the NFC, it's been a revolving door of flashes in the pan. Rodgers has been around forever and amassed a good deal of stats and personal glory, but at the end of the day, much like Favre before him, was one and done in Green Bay. Same with Brees in New Orleans. Wilson crapped out quickly in Seattle. Stafford won't be hoisting another Lombardi in L.A. Brady was one and done in Tampa. Warner went one out of three with two teams. Amazingly, Eli Manning is the only NFC quarterback to win two Super Bowls since the 90s but outside of being Brady's kryptonite he was an anomaly at best. And Dak Prescott? Please. He hasn't even made it to the pan to be a flash.

Perhaps Hurts will break the cycle, but obviously the jury's still out on that one. You really have to go back to Aikman or Montana to find anybody with staying power.

Aaron Rodgers won back-to-back MVPs the last two years. And Brady had two great seasons in Tampa. If you're talking about young QBs, that's a good question.

MIAdragon 02-01-2023 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16783609)
Packers, Lions, and Cowboys all dropped 30+ on that D.

We will too, hobbled and all.

DRM08 02-01-2023 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16783616)
Washington did too..

They literally didn't trail in the in the second half of a game until week 10, they trailed to the Colts for an entire game and won at the end.

The Eagles have basically got to play their game all year, there's a lot of things they haven't even had to go to. They never got behind by 14 points and had to air it out.

Right now though they are hiding Hurts, he's running far less than he did early in the year, dude threw for 270 yards in 2 playoff games combined.

And they have averaged nearly 35 points per game in the Playoffs. That's pretty damn impressive when the QB isn't doing very much. Strong OL, strong run game, strong defense goes a long way.

Mecca 02-01-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16783931)
And they have averaged nearly 35 points per game in the Playoffs. That's pretty damn impressive when the QB isn't doing very much. Strong OL, strong run game, strong defense goes a long way.

Playing a bad team and a team without a QB helps.

Chieftain 02-01-2023 03:50 PM

Chiefs run defense is excellent. Ranked 8th best in the league at the conclusion of the season. One thing Bolton and Gay thrive in is stopping the run. So the Eagles strength in running the ball plays to our strength in stopping it. Chiefs D Line ranked 2nd in sacks so their ability to pressure the QB is noticably better than what the Niners showed.
Cornerbacks are a wash. Bradberry's pff grade is 74.1 compared to Sneed's 76.8. Slay grades at 73.1 compared to McDuffie at 73.6. Watson and Jobe are equal. Maddox has a gap of 10.5 points compared to Williams.
Safeties we have the advantage. Gardner-Johnson grades at 65.2 as opposed to Reid who grades at 73.2. Blankenship 75.8 compared to Thornhill 67.1. Wallace 58.4 compared to Cook 64.3.

Chiefs were able to shut down for much of the game a healthy and elite Cincy offense. I see no reason why they wouldn't do the same to a lesser offense like the Eagles with a hobbled qb.
Eagles D Line will be a challenge against our O Line but with McKinnon being used as a blocker and Andy incorporating a three tight end formation and giving the run game more emphasis, it would make the load more managable.

RunKC 02-01-2023 04:16 PM

Hardman pretty much confirmed he’ll play. I think Sneed will too with the 2 weeks to recover.

Juju was also moving around a lot after the game.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We did not hold practice today, the below injury report is an estimation.<br><br>Willie Gay and Trey Smith were limited. Mecole Hardman, JuJu Smith-Schuster, L&#39;Jarius Sneed, and Kadarius Toney did not practice.</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1620881155477086208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 02-01-2023 04:17 PM

Kelce back must be better.

DRM08 02-01-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16784123)
Chiefs were able to shut down for much of the game a healthy and elite Cincy offense. I see no reason why they wouldn't do the same to a lesser offense like the Eagles with a hobbled qb.

That was not a healthy Bengals offense. Their OL was wiped out with injury, similar to KC in the Super Bowl against Tampa. Cincy also lost a pretty good #3 receiver in Boyd early in the game.

New World Order 02-01-2023 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16784161)
Hardman pretty much confirmed he’ll play. I think Sneed will too with the 2 weeks to recover.

Juju was also moving around a lot after the game.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We did not hold practice today, the below injury report is an estimation.<br><br>Willie Gay and Trey Smith were limited. Mecole Hardman, JuJu Smith-Schuster, L&#39;Jarius Sneed, and Kadarius Toney did not practice.</p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1620881155477086208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


So happy we have 2 weeks.

If we're healthy we're not losing

ToxSocks 02-01-2023 04:28 PM

Really sucks about Toney. So freakin talented, can't stay healthy. Seems like a good kid, feel bad for the guy.

Mecca 02-01-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16784180)
Really sucks about Toney. So freakin talented, can't stay healthy. Seems like a good kid, feel bad for the guy.

Because it's an ankle and not a muscle I think there's a good chance he'll be ok.

O.city 02-01-2023 04:33 PM

I mean what is it? Did he just turn his ankle?

Pasta Little Brioni 02-01-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16784171)
That was not a healthy Bengals offense. Their OL was wiped out with injury, similar to KC in the Super Bowl against Tampa. Cincy also lost a pretty good #3 receiver in Boyd early in the game.

Burrow Chase Mixon Higgins 100 percent as opposed to the top 3 KC WRs out, Pat on 1 leg, and Kelce with a back injury. Sneed oit Gay out...ya they were healthy comparatively.

staylor26 02-01-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16784191)
I mean what is it? Did he just turn his ankle?

Yea looked like a mild ankle sprain. I think he'll play.

O.city 02-01-2023 04:34 PM

Mixon isn't good anymore.

ToxSocks 02-01-2023 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16784191)
I mean what is it? Did he just turn his ankle?

Looks like when he planted, his ankle was turned inward, pigeon footed.

Megatron96 02-01-2023 04:45 PM

I just reviewed PHI regular season schedule and had a thought; they've never faced an Andy Reid style offense. Not even close, in terms of creativity and unpredictability. The only team they played that had a seed kernel of Andy's offensive philosophy was JAX in week 4-5. And Pederson probably was still just installing the basics at that point.

Andy may be able to design their defense into the same kinds of errors that he got SF with in week 7. Take advantage of their tendencies for big plays while simultaneously negating much of their pass-rushing effectiveness.

On the other side of the coin, it also doesn't look like they faced very many top-tier DCs this season. Most of their opposing DCs are middle of the pack guys or coordinators that lean heavily on their particular scheme and talent. But not a ton of creativity from the first look at it.

Again, this game looks like it'll be won in the trenches, but I don't think it'll be as cut-and-dried as which team has the better players at each position. I think Andy will scheme a gameplan similar to the one he used against SF, trying to take advantage of their DLs tendencies.

And I think Spags is going to try and make Hurts see ghosts with a multitude of different looks early in the game, and maybe take his chances on Jalen having some success running the ball. PHI isn't going to win this game with Jalen running the ball 10+ times anyway. It just takes too long against Andy and Pat. They're going to have to win the game through the air on the strength of Jalen's arm. Our DL is going to have to get pressure similar to how they did vs. CIN, despite the fact that the Eagles OL is much better than the one they faced in CIN, and our secondary is going to be tested again by a very accurate QB, who probably will have more opportunities than Burrow did last week, simply because his OL is going to block better.

But it's the exotic looks and pressures that Spags will bring that probably will be the deciding factor here. If Jalen is a better processor than we think, he'll dissect the exotic looks and pressures and move the chains/score TDs.

If he's not, or if the injury is worse than many think, Spags is going to dominate Jalen, and it won't really matter how many yards they get on the ground.

O.city 02-01-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16784195)
Yea looked like a mild ankle sprain. I think he'll play.

The trainer on Twitter seemed to think it wouldn't be that bad. I guess we will see.

staylor26 02-01-2023 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16784219)
The trainer on Twitter seemed to think it wouldn't be that bad. I guess we will see.

He was walking on it after and after the game.

raybec 4 02-01-2023 04:51 PM

I've seen differing opinions here on CP about Juju. Some say he was walking around after the game and some say he was hobbling on one leg. Anyone seen anything real?


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