WTF are you even talking about.

Wtf are you smoking? You need to put the pipe down asap. Whatever it is, it's killing your last two remaining brain cells, bub. And neither of them were terribly smart to begin with.

Are you just trolling? If not you are definitely delusional.

Only twice? I swear it was more than that. Like 20.

Its time to say to hell with future draft picks. Do whatever it takes to get into the top 15 and get a freaking franchise left tackle.

I think you're right. Just saying, I'm not sure even today's horrific performance will prod Andy into accelerating CJ's schedule, that's all.

The one bright, sorry dim glimmer of hope I have, is that Andy actually benched Morris today at a key moment during the game, which might mean that he's done watching Morris shit his pants for good. We'll see, and I hope you're right and he starts DJ next week.

Maybe you should rewatch the game.

We have a little mini bye here with nine days until the Chargers game. Hopefully DJ will be getting a lot of work in during those nine days. It would mean he will have had over two weeks of fitness work and two full practice weeks (hopefully) in the books by the time the Chargers game kicks off. Lord knows we need him now.

Wanya was the worst LT in the NFL today. Kingsley was the worst when he played.

I know DJ may be a bit rusty but he’ll he should be a massive upgrade to what we saw today at worst.

Future real MVP

This man is coming to save our season!

hope this guy can learn Andy Reid's playbook by next week!

Im ready to call up Ethan Driskell if he's not lol

Yes Taylor struggled against a Bosa, Garrett, Watt level talent just like 99% of all other RTs would

But penalties aside he held up well, I watched him snap after snap and while he got beat for some early heat... he still won more often than not

Omenihu deserves some Escalades as well, you can tell the injury is still lingering but he isn't malingering around... that dude wants to keep right up with where he left off

We don't know how it will go for him after the injury. Would be nice if he can play at a solid level.

Are we really going to keep THREE backup tackles on this team?

Yes. And CEH.

At this point I'd like to see Driskell over anyone besides Humphries.

Hell, I'd sign Donovan Smith as an insurance policy at this point to.

Straight out of the buffet line.

He's paid enough to buy his own. ;)

I said this earlier as well. Even with Humphries, you’re one play away from one of those clowns having to come in again, and neither of them should be seeing an NFL field at this point, especially blocking for the best QB on Earth.

I hear you, but Driskell could easily be Terrible LT Part III.

I’d imagine we don’t see either of our two current LTs again out there this year.

Humphreys will be inserted asap and if something happens Thuney kicks out

I think so also. As long as he can show that he belongs in the NFL, he'll be better than what we have been trotting out there.

Driskell reminds me of a lineman we had who we let go and he went on to have a pretty decent career. I think his name was Sviteck or something like that. They're keeping Driskell on the 53 for some reason.

Yep. We are at that point.

Huh, no. He is slower and more plodding than either Morris or Sua. We don't seem to coach well enough against the speed rush and yet we leave these inexperienced tackles on an island at crucial times.

He would, makes no sense to throw him out there. It would make more sense to go with 6 linemen until Humphries is ready than throwing an even slower OT out there.

I really hope he can be how he was a few years back and we can keep him for a few more years. Our prospects of improving in any other way seem like a complete dream. We can’t draft anyone. They don’t come as free agents unless insanely overpaid. And we can’t trade for one. The only other option seems to be trading up in the draft but even that’s nothing certain.

We are extremely fortunate that a pro bowl caliber player became available due to injury and his old team already having a replacement with no need to hold onto the guy. It seems like a pretty unique set of circumstances, that if it works out, is basically manna from heaven.

Like Willie Roaf…

The sooner we can get this guy in at LT, the better. I'm 53 and can't remember a "starter" tackle worse than what we have at LT right now. I'm not even sure that Morris is practice squad material at this point.

This guy may have a parade in his honor if he plays good in his first game.

The expectations and hope for this guy are sky high.

I'd settle for just being adequate for now. Just give Pat 3 freakin seconds.

I think the opposite. I think our expectations and desires are so low that even if he’s just average we are going to be crowning him an all time great just purely from being mesmerized that the LT is actually allowed to provide resistance.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is my LT and people say Chiefs fans have it easy <a href="https://t.co/XSCH88hKLq">pic.twitter.com/XSCH88hKLq</a></p>&mdash; NGB (@TheGoatMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGoatMahomes/status/1862606003289657775?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Exactly. And the deal is, he does not have to still be Pro Bowl caliber. Even if he is average to above average, he will be MUCH better than what we have. However, going forward, there will always be an injury concern with him, but, I'll take that any day over the 100% positive concern that the Left Tackles I currently have cannot play.

Yeah….you basically just need him to be a decently solid LT

We don’t need Willie roaf just don’t get beat immediately

Yep. At this point the house is on fire. Our franchise QB is getting hit from his blindside over and over. Get this man on the field.

I’m on record here saying the Charger game would be too early to put him out there.. Based on what we have seen … **** that! If he says he can go.. Do it.. Or at least keep Thuney at left tackle one more game.. Morris can’t see the field again…

KC's three peat hinges on Humphries being average...what a stroke of luck that the Chiefs even have a chance to improve that position.

I've never seen a player single highhandedly ruin an offense...Morris is close. Some of those pressures/sacks were within a second. No QB can function under those conditions..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� BREAKING ��<br><br>D.J. Humphries is expected to be fast-tracked into the lineup and anticipated to start at left tackle for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> against the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chargers</a>.<br><br>Per, <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/FourGuysInABar?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FourGuysInABar</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TalkPrimeTime?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TalkPrimeTime</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BowTieSports_18?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BowTieSports_18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ChiefsInsider</a> <a href="https://t.co/YdtFD8eAZY">pic.twitter.com/YdtFD8eAZY</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Blitz (@ChiefsBlitz) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsBlitz/status/1862962103964868776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This feels like the point where we all collectively say "yeah, duh", but damn is that music to my ears.

He makes Orlando Brown look like a pro bowler.

Thank goodness. Obvious that they would want to do it, awesome that they are doing it.

Yup total duh decision

Andy doesn't wanna roll Thuney out there again, there is no time like the present for DJ to get going and knock the rust off... its now or never

It would help if Kelce could block… but alas he cant’t.

Benching Wanya is this years version of benching Toney.

Hard to watch. Sure hope the leg for Humphries is strong enough to let him perform at a solid level.

What's crazy is, that dude did that single move over and over and over and Wanya couldn't stop it one time. He didn't even try another move. He didn't need to.

Said this before… I’d never put this expectation on mahomes, but given how competitive he is i wonder if he would ever taking a 1-year paycut if it meant fixing the LT and WR position once and for all. I’m always surprised more players don’t do this. If humphries plays well wouldn’t it be nice to lock him up long term?

It would mean doing a disservice to all other players in the league who are trying to make a living and maximize their compensation. There's not leveraging your stature minute by minute to be the highest paid player in the league (which he's done) and then there's restructing your contract to take a paycut that that isn't remotely warranted.

It would impact what other QBs are paid and that would trickle down to what other positions get as well. There's no way he wants to be viewed in that light.

I look around the league and see other big money QB's with great OL's and weapons. Jared Goff just got $80M this year and has a completely stacked roster around him. That includes an elite RT on a massive contract, elite receiver on a massive contract, really good LT on a big money contract, etc. Joe Burrow has gotten $110M the last couple years and has Orlando Brown plus WR's Chase/Higgins. Somehow the Eagles have big money players all over their roster (including OL/WR) while paying big money to Jalen Hurts. Lamar Jackson got $80M last year and has Ronnie Stanley on a big money deal at Left Tackle. Josh Allen has had Dion Dawkins for 6+ years, including a big money deal for Dawkins at the moment. On and on it goes. Mahomes already provided the team with a pretty big discount from 2020 to 2022. He could have gone the Burrow route (huge cash flow immediately).

They can restructure $$$ if they want to keep this group going one more year.


They can also just use draft capital to move up but this year's draft doesn't have a bunch of blue chip LT's. Maybe if they see a guy they really like who can be functional they move up some.

Nah, I know people want to say that, but right now QBs are overpaid and if you pay them less that money goes to someone else. Teams aren’t going to just sit on cap if they have space.

It’s not an opinion I have a ton of conviction about. But if affording a player who can keep him healthy and upright is a matter of a few extra million we don’t want to pay, in the grand scheme of his whole contract I don’t think it has nearly that kind of ripple effect.

His critics said he was selfish for taking such a massive cap contract and then roasted him for taking less. So he doesn’t win either way.

Other teams are more assertive about spending money because they’d rather their best possible 3 year window than trying to spread over 5 years. A luxury we haven’t needed because we’re not desperate as other teams who don’t want to waste their window. We always have that ace in the hole since we’ve been really conservative about our long term cap.

Dude, you're saying he should take a paycut versus his current contract. The only people who do that are those who are going to be cut and acccept a restructure to maintain some semblance of a guarantee that they feel would be better than they could get on the open market if released.

He's already taking an implicit paycut by not demanding to be the highest paid at his position by a longshot. He's doing his part to maintain the team around him. He's not going to out and out restructure to get even less.

This team is entering dangerous territory fellas. Kelce is about to retire. Chris is starting to get up in age to the point where you wonder when he’ll start the decline.

They need to hit at key positions like Tackle and pass rusher badly.

They need another draft like 2022 and I think that’s exactly why Veach was fine trading Sneed for an early 3rd

We're going to hit a slump at some point, probably next year after the threepeat

None of the all time teams have been able to keep up this torrid pace we're on... hate to be that guy, but we can't win them all

Lets just get the triple, everything after that with Pat is gravy

They win this one I don't mind doing another mini reset.

Or maybe they try one more time with Kelce next year.

Either way, that is how it goes.

****ing THIS EXACTLY. Why does he get a pass? What has he done in his tenure?

Im not saying he should. And specifically said it’s not likely and no one can blame him. But the option is there if he wants to. By all indications he accepted a bigger contract not because he wanted to, but because he was bullied into taking more money because douches like Florio had the audacity to call this selfish for some weird reason

. If he doesn’t care about the few extra $s then the only reason he’s taking more money is because he’s forced to, then **** everyone else. If mahomes believes taking less will get more weapons around him and that’s what he wants, then let him. Upsetting the Lamars and burrows of the world is such a ridiculous reason for mahomes not to want to do what’s best for him. You now have guys like burrow and Lamar and Herbert setting the market. You don’t need mahomes to carry that weight anymore

I’ve said this before, but if we follow the patriots model we can fix this quick and easy. You pick one “detox” year. Trade away players weighing down your cap, don’t sign anyone and collect comp picks. You clean up your cap and end up with lots and lots of picks which we know veach will make very good use of.

Patriots were notorious for a big splash offseason followed by a do nothing offseason. Really good strategy once we’ve moved on from our current core guys.

This cannot be a serious question. Holy shit

For real. Tre and Creed are pretty talented players, Thuney is an all pro, our tackle positions seem to always struggle. Jawaan still can’t figure out how to line up and not be penalized after almost 2 years. I might have been being a bit over dramatic, but damn his OL has been struggling all year. Even with the LT position aside. I wish he’d get hired away, or abducted by the cartel. We need a better leader there imo.

I take a lot of stock in what the schwartzes say. And they insist up and down that heck is a great coach and that wanya and jawaan just aren’t very good. So I kind of give heck a pass because I don’t know that he’s had much OT talent to work with

Andy is a OL guy, that's what he was.

No way does a coach last with him this long in that spot if they aren't good.


Easier explanation is it is hard to find good tackles. You have to keep drafting guys.

You're making up a narrative that he's gotten a bump because Florio pressured him into it. Are you this naive?

He's going to get some bump every few years. That's how this works. Florio isn't going to bully him into it. And he's never going to push the envelope such that he's getting paid what he's worth. That's his paycut.

No idea how this isn't eminently obvious.

Chris signed a 158 million contract less than a year ago and you are wondering when he'll start to decline?

Things that make you go hhmmm for $1000.

You’re not getting a Lt or a pass rusher in the 3rd round.

They’ll trade for a LT I’d imagine

We’re still waiting on the Mahomes affect.

You trying to insinuate that Veach is incompetent?

Unlucky is more like it.

Mahomes was absolutely bullied by the media, like florio and Richard Sherman, who raised a huge stink about how it was Mahomes’ fault Lamar couldn’t get the deal he wanted. Mahomes didn’t relent because the media pressured him. He relented because they pushed the narrative that he was letting QBs down by not getting paid enough.

Mahomes specifically said in an interview he was comfortable with the team friendliness of his salary but specifically said he regretted that his contract was holding up deals for other QBs.

Hurts contract is largely deferred.

This thread needs moar dlphag.

Lions built their O Line with picks #6, #16, #20. Yeah.

Ronnie Stanley... #6 overall pick.

It is extremely rare to draft a quality offensive tackle outside the Top 20. If you did, it was by pure luck. Chiefs are not afforded this luxury because they draft at the bottom every year. This has been argued for the longest time. Teams are not willing to trade down with the Chiefs and in those rare instances when they do, the top tackles are already gone. So, Burt has no other option but to draft them in the second round or bring in temporary replacement vets. There is no other way to do it.

Sometimes shopping the discount rack isn’t a bad move. I just keep waiting for the list of guys that want to come and play for the vet minimum just to play with Mahomes and get rings.

Or trade up for one when the right LT falls like Mahomes did at QB.

Not 100% true. Veach could have always over paid to move up and hasn’t. I think all of us would be fine giving up an extra late round 1st too get a stud LT

Tell me when exactly what would've worked out and what prospect he should've been targeting and please give me details on the team that was willing to trade the pick for our 2 1's.

It's so easy to say this all after the fact.

We traded a 1 for OBJ.

We went after Trent Williams.

Plenty of indications we wanted to trade up into the high teens to get Mims in this latest draft.

There's a difference between indifference toward a need AND attempting to address a need but not doing so successfully.

We don't need to make stuff up after the fact.

No chance in hell Veach doesn't concentrate on tackles this year.