Herbie

I think that was meant for the Donks/Dolts thread, but Red Dawg is kind of special, so just humor him.

I'll take "Posting in the wrong thread like a moron" for 200 Alex.

Mahomes has been hit a league high 102 times this year.

That cannot happen. 35 sacks (career high) already with 3 games left.

Veach rolled the dice and it didn’t work. I get why you try to draft a LT because it saves your team $100M over 4 seasons but not going into the year with the knowledge that you have (at least) a competent LT in case your draft pick doesn’t work out immediately was a bad bad move on Veach’s part and one that - after the 2020 Super Bowl - should absolutely never have happened ever again.

Andy may have led Veach to believe they were good with Wanya and Kingsley so he may own some of the blame but the conclusion is the same and you just can’t roll the dice at that position.

Absolutely disgraceful, 100% on Veach and Andy. Mahomes is mobile if he wasn't able to elude pass rushers I wonder where this statistic would be, like if he was working with Peyton Manning-type mobility??

You save $100M but you’re also losing value on Mahomes when he’s not able to play to the value of his contract because you went cheap on the line.

And when Mahomes doesn’t play to his contract that branches out and subsequently forces the pass catchers not to play up to the value of theirs.

Tackle is worth the investment. Plain and simple. Save money elsewhere.

Idk what they can do at LT. It’s Cam Robinson or trade a metric **** load of draft picks to move up for a lottery ticket LT while letting the team get worse due to less draft capital.

Really difficult spot to be in

Except they're already paying Thuney, Creed, and Jawaan top dollar. In no way have they gone cheap with the line.

They've tried to acquire a LT ever since Fisher retired. They've used a lot of resources to do it, especially the OBJ trade.

It's almost like finding a good LT is hard or something.

And a good RT for that matter. They were pretty damn lucky to have Schwartz & Fisher on reasonable contracts in those days. Unlucky to have both of them suddenly unavailable. Very hard to get solid replacements for them.

I really wish they hadn’t resigned Creed.

You can find decent centers a dime a dozen. Not great value that could’ve been better allocated elsewhere.

Veach could have overpaid in draft picks and moved up and got a tackle. He went the path of bargain hunting a 2nd round pick! While grabbing Worthy was great, I'd happily give up him PLUS extra pick/s like even next years 1st to move up into the teens and grab Olu Fashanu(#11 would have cost two 1st and then some but still very doable) Taliese Fuaga(at #14, would have cost that years and this coming years 1st), Mims(at #18, again very doable), Troy Fautanu at #20, and even guys like Morgan or Guyton. Or DAMN even just trade up in teh 2nd and get guys that graded out much better than Kingsley like Patrick Paul and Blake Fisher.

**** believing that Veach didn't have options. Just decided to roll the dice and be cheap with money AND Draft picks!

At this point after two SB wins in a row he should have looked at the biggest need, PROTECTING MAHOMES....This has already lost you a SB, and spent what ever cap/draft picks to lock up his blind side!!!!! NOT ****ING GAMBLE OF A ROOKIE AND SHIT TARD MORRIS!!!!! **** Me MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone

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Everybody wants to blame Andy and Brett for the O Line woes but I would think that they had discussions with Mahomes and he had a say and he probably said he could play around it. He's the guy making the big buck$?

Hopefully DHop saw Patrick in 2022

LMAO

It’s been a mess with everything. Rice, Hollywood and Pacheco out really hurt the explosion aspect of the team that could work around the OL issue.

They need to get an explosive RB and another Rice like YAC machine receiver/TE after they work on LT

Uh....

STFU STFU STFU

Staylor has been slacking so I’m gonna step in here for him….

Mims had 8 only starts in college, didn’t play LT and is a brokedick
Morgan is a brokedick that likely isn’t a LT
Fautanu is a brokedick who is already out for the year proving his broke dick
Fuaga was never attainable for us
Guyton has been absolute ass all year. He’s been terrible

His mobility gets him hit more often than not.

Manning NEVER took shots. Because he hit the back of his drop and the ball was out.

Brady was very similar in that regard.

Mahomes is holding onto the ball and getting himself blasted. Again, the pass rush win rates don't lie -- our guys are as good at any OL in the league at giving Mahomes the 'accepted' 2.5 seconds to survey and throw.

Being a GM is not your calling. Those are some very bad and not good ideas.

I just don't have the energy these days LMAO

Are we really in here ALL-CAPPING a team that:
has the best QB to ever walk the earth
has a Hall of Fame Head Coach
has a Hall of Fame TE
is currently 13-1
is comfortably positioned to be the #1 seed in current year playoffs
has hosted the AFCC Game 5 of the last 6 years
has been to four Super Bowls in the last 5 years
has three Super Bowl rings

That is wild.

Anyone that has watched this kid knows damn well if he's cleared by doctors, and ANYTHING of importance is at stake in the game, he's not sitting.

Moreover, we're activating Hollywood this game. He's gotta be pumped to get out there and get on the same page with him before playoffs.

I've seen some commentary that this is a meaningless December game and he shouldn't risk it.

This game is not meaningless. It is one of two games of the next three needed to secure home field and a first round bye.

Sitting out will be done in 2 weeks when we've beaten the Texans and Steelers, and our JV squad takes the field against the Broncos in an actual meaningless game with playoff seeding locked.

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I've used both viagra and cialis. I can tell your bitch ass has not. You don't take it, and just get a hard on. It still requires stimulus. It's just that if your pecker does not work, and you get some stimulus, it will.

I found viagra to give me a ****************ing headache and make me stuffy like I had a cold. Cialis? Much better. For those that wonder why I would be taking it? Because you can **************** for 9 hours on that shit. And well, I love ****************in. Testosterone will make you like that, ya know?

Imagine being this emotional and uninformed.

I am NOT a HATER! I LOVE Burch Vatch but, reality is reality. We are down left tackles, drafted late for a franchise OL and we are NOT PROTECTING MAHOMES. I do not understand what is going on with our draft picks as well as what the hell is going on with the GAMBLE OF A ROOKIE AND SHIT TARD MORRIS! Will we make the playoffs, YES! Will someone **** Me MERRY CHRISTMAS? NO! THIS SUCKS!!

New copypasta just dropped.

He posted this while butt ass naked eating cottage cheese and watching Judge Judy reruns.

Is this wrong?

I am no one to judge that specific activity

Mims has as many snaps in the NFL this year as he had all of college and he hasn't missed a single one all year.

He's not a LT, though and that's what the Chiefs need

I disagree. He is clearly already one of the greatest but he is not the GOAT QB right now. He still has a lot of work to do. It doesn't help that Brady took an AFCCG and SB away from Mahomes. Even Mahomes said that Brady has that over him.

So if the OL is passable what’s the answer? That’s a scary thought that his OL is giving him enough time and he’s simply not making his throws.

Mahomes has always taken hits when he dances around and makes a throw. He's made some big plays taking hits too. WASP?

Been asking that for a bit as well.

Honestly - my answer is the same as it was this time last year -- QB1 needs to play better.

I mean this is almost literally the EXACT conversation that was being had last season. Last year everything was blamed on the WRs. This year everything is being blamed on the OL (more specifically, the LT).

And yet when the playoffs started, kid just played better football even with limited options at WR. We have to hope that he'll do so with less than ideal circumstances at LT this year.

I don't love that he's been sacked 36 times (though I'll note the 'most times of his career!' stuff is a little disingenuous -- he's barely in the top 10 for times being sacked among QBs this year and that's only because Watson and Minshew got hurt and Jones got benched). I don't love that he's been hit 100 times.

But as I've been saying since about week 4 -- hit the balls you're supposed to hit and you'll have to take fewer snaps and get hit fewer times. Lost in the hand-wringing is that when we have to execute 12 play drives to move the damn ball, it's that many more times that Mahomes has to stand back there. Hit more plays further downfield and you won't have to run as many plays and won't get hit as often.

And throw the ball on time. He's been late aaaaaalllll yeeeeeeaaaaaar. He just has been and anybody that's been looking for it has seen it. So many people have shown dozens of examples where he just doesn't trust what he sees.

Just gotta play ball, Pat. Play on time. Make the throws. Just play better.

Because that's it. That's all that will truly save the day for this team. If your superstar is ordinary, you're not gonna win a championship.

Reported for filter bypass.

Sure.

But there's a difference between what happened in Wasp when he stood in there, absorbed the blow and delivered the ball and what's been happening most of this season.

This season he's been freezing up, patting the ball, moving into pressure and then getting hit.

O.City has been among the more vocal commenters here in pointing out a bunch of times where he just won't stand in and deliver a football. He ends up getting happy feet, rolling about, usually getting hit ANYWAY and then instead of standing in there to get hit and get the yards, he gets hit and it's 2nd and 10 so he gets to be exposed to the same hit all over again.

He's gotta play on time. And if you're gonna get hit, stand in and deliver. Too often this year he just hasn't done that. He's taken unnecessary contact to no benefit.

Even when he has made plays after scrambling to be. You look back there was an easier throw or play earlier he should have made , I thought D hop was open early on the scramble play to Kelce last week .

Yeah that's true. It's like having an inconsistent line and WRs have played into his fallback weaknesses. I'd have to go back and watch the first couple of games this year to verify but I think he started the season playing much more on schedule but when Rice went down and other teams saw they could exploit our Ts he's regressed.

So he can bitch about how meaningless preseason and regular season games are. That's the only reason. He thinks we should rest all of our good players until the AFC Championship game apparently.

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He will play tomorrow.

Breaking News

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Bringing this back to the top. Shame on you who doubted our savior.

Hey, the sky isn't falling.


.....again.

Update: He good

They replaced his ankle with steel. He will be fine forever.

The hand wringing on this one was dumb as ****. It was a mild sprain. He's already played through much worse and wasn't really worse for wear.

ankle cowards are silent

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I’ve said it before, it’s almost as if people have missed the last seven years. This place has been more dumbass than usual as of late, and that’s really, really dumbass.

Fabulous report from Danan Hughes

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Why is he thanking himself? :shrug:

Don't be sack religious

Checks out.

I dipped into my Chiefs photo archive to get that Mighty Mouse pic, fam. You won't see that on the internet.

He certainly didn’t miss a beat, the initial injury looked bad he had to be helped off field it was called a high ankle sprain he had to be carted out of the facility, everyone in the national media beat had reservations but Pat again beat the odds. Later in the week it sounded like he was fine and it was a mild high ankle. Pat, He’s just built different. To be fair, the offensive line looked even better today he had time and wasn’t knocked around much. That certainly helped. Hollywood helped immensely.

Glad he good!

When will others learn not to talk smack about Mahomes

Pretty good quotes in this article from Coach Reid, Mahomes, and Trey Smith:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-chiefs-texans

My goodness, she was just on NFL Network and it's suddenly volcano hot in here. She is beyond charming/likeable. WOW!

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Patrick Mahomes scrambling for 14 yards then running for a touchdown, six days after leaving the game with an ankle sprain is peak Patrick Mahomes.

Hilarious that people wanted him not to play.

Meh. Not really. Nobody knew how severe the injury was. High ankle sprains can be serious. God bless Gumby Mahomes. Pretty sure everyone here was happy to see him play well and leave the game healthy today. We all want the 3 peat. :)

Haven’t we known since like Monday or Tuesday when they said it was a minor sprain?

Week to week

The TV didn't show it, but apparently on the 4th and 2 to open the game, Harrison Butker tried to come onto the field and Mahomes pushed him back to the sideline, much to the crowd's delight. ROFL

So is it still a bad idea to play him?

Would Wentz handle the Texans?

I told you, they replaced it with steel.

I'm not going to lie. Wood.

Sorry but that's not true. Several of us knew exactly how bad the injury was because we were paying attention. The team knew what was going on and a lot of people here did, too.

People are going to have to stop thinking in the negative. This team don't play that shit.

Andy has been pretty aggressive this year. More recently. Wonder if that is a strategy, Butker still being banged up, or frustration with the offense.

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