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ptlyon 01-21-2025 09:35 AM

Here's an idea...
 
Let's just go out there and KICK THEIR ASS

mr. tegu 01-21-2025 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926679)
You're gonna have to be aggressive me thinks.


Yeah I will definitely puke if we come out with nothing but sideways passes and simple interior runs. This secondary is bad. Like real bad. We have the receivers to take advantage of it and their d line should not be wrecking this game for us. It’s just sort of average. Make them feel like they have to blitz to stop the passing game which should work in our favor.

Sometimes coaches overthink things. If we lean into the run game too much early that will benefit the Bills because no matter how much we lean into it and are successful, with our RBs it’s still just a bunch of 5-6 yard runs. Nothing game breaking or scary for a defense.

MIAdragon 01-21-2025 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17926583)
If the Chiefs don’t get it done, will you be happy for and root for Josh Allen?

What the actual ****.

RealSNR 01-21-2025 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17926583)
If the Chiefs don’t get it done, will you be happy for and root for Josh Allen?


No. He gets nothing and he will like it.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17926704)
Yeah I will definitely puke if we come out with nothing but sideways passes and simple interior runs. This secondary is bad. Like real bad. We have the receivers to take advantage of it and their d line should not be wrecking this game for us. It’s just sort of average. Make them feel like they have to blitz to stop the passing game which should work in our favor.

Sometimes coaches overthink things. If we lean into the run game too much early that will benefit the Bills because no matter how much we lean into it and are successful, with our RBs it’s still just a bunch of 5-6 yard runs. Nothing game breaking or scary for a defense.

If the run game is successful, great.

But the Bills didn't make the Ravens punt 1 time. Not a single punt.

Don't turn it over and we should score points.

RunKC 01-21-2025 09:42 AM

Yup

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RollChiefsRoll 01-21-2025 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17926609)
Josh Allen is a good kid and fiery competitor just like Patrick Mahomes. The Bills franchise and fanbase has been through as much playoff pain as the Chiefs. And yet they’re still despised around these parts. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills and they end up playing the Eagles in the SB I’ll be rooting for the Bills.

I must say, you’re the most effective troll who doesn’t realize he’s a troll.

ptlyon 01-21-2025 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 17926714)
I must say, you’re the most effective troll who doesn’t realize he’s a troll.

Oh no, he does

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 09:46 AM

I'm not afraid to give Buffalo credit.

They've beaten us four consecutive years. Yes, they're regular season games, but no other team has done that. Mahomes and Allen are basically .500 against each other. I don't want any team to have success against the Mahomes' Chiefs. Buffalo is legit a great team. They probably win the SB in 2021 if not for the 13 seconds fiasco.

Losing Sunday would give them four wins in their last five games against us. It's somewhat similar to the feeling before the Bengals AFCCG in 2022. We had to win that game to shut that team up.

mr. tegu 01-21-2025 09:46 AM

Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926709)
If the run game is successful, great.

But the Bills didn't make the Ravens punt 1 time. Not a single punt.

Don't turn it over and we should score points.


We definitely shouldn’t abandon the run game by any means. But we can’t just concede the intermediate passing game like we have done at times this season (mostly due to personnel/blocking). Their secondary simply can’t stop it. In the first meeting we did whatever we wanted with Worthy but then just sort of stopped. With Brown and fully integrated Hopkins we should just be spamming those guys all game.

Rainbarrel 01-21-2025 09:49 AM

It's not a win if they(Bills) lose the Super Bowl. Even Bengals fans know this, somewhere in their minds

ptlyon 01-21-2025 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926709)
If the run game is successful, great.

But the Bills didn't make the Ravens punt 1 time.Not a single punt.

Don't turn it over and we should score points.

The bolded is pretty disingenuous. They had 4 turnovers.

So the last sentence I agree with.

DRM08 01-21-2025 09:50 AM

Andy needs to stay away from the silly trick plays in the Red Zone.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17926726)
The bolded is pretty disingenuous. They had 4 turnovers.

So the last sentence I agree with.

3 turnovers, with arguably 1 being "forced".

Hence my take care of the football and we'll score points stance.

Kman34 01-21-2025 09:53 AM

Jeffri Chadiha On 810, big surprise… He Picked the Bills.. States the Bills will run the ball well and we won’t sack Josh Allen … Thinks the Bills has a top 3 offensive line..

This nails it for me.. We will win the game…

mr. tegu 01-21-2025 09:54 AM

Let's talk about the Bills - AFC Championship Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17926726)
The bolded is pretty disingenuous. They had 4 turnovers.

So the last sentence I agree with.


Three turnovers. Two of which were in Bills territory which wouldn’t have been punts.

The Ravens basically did whatever they wanted with 7.3 yards per play. Better than their season average.

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17926725)
It's not a win if they(Bills) lose the Super Bowl. Even Bengals fans know this, somewhere in their minds

True. But the Bengals went on the road against a more motivated Rams team.

Buffalo would likely defeat the Eagles/Commanders.

O.city 01-21-2025 09:55 AM

Ravens outgained them by 150 yards on 2 less plays.

It's the turnovers. If Baltimore doesn't turn it over, they win. Shit....maybe handily?

Coochie liquor 01-21-2025 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17926609)
Josh Allen is a good kid and fiery competitor just like Patrick Mahomes. The Bills franchise and fanbase has been through as much playoff pain as the Chiefs. And yet they’re still despised around these parts. If the Chiefs lose to the Bills and they end up playing the Eagles in the SB I’ll be rooting for the Bills.

C.uck alert!

ptlyon 01-21-2025 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926733)
3 turnovers, with arguably 1 being "forced".

Hence my take care of the football and we'll score points stance.

Box score says 3 fumbles for loss and 1 interception. Whatever. Point still stands.

ThaVirus 01-21-2025 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926719)
They probably win the SB in 2021 if not for the 13 seconds fiasco.

We’ll never know, but somehow I doubt it. They still would have had to beat the Bengals. The following postseason with basically the same core teams, the Bengals went into Buffalo and smacked them around.

htismaqe 01-21-2025 10:01 AM

Bills fans are despised here because by and large, they're rude, ignorant, and disgusting. They earned their rep. Anybody defending them can choke on a Billdo.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2025 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926719)
Losing Sunday would give them four wins in their last five games against us. It's somewhat similar to the feeling before the Bengals AFCCG in 2022. We had to win that game to shut that team up.

This is some ****ing loser ass bullshit. :LOL:

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17926752)
We’ll never know, but somehow I doubt it. They still would have had to beat the Bengals. The following postseason with basically the same core teams, the Bengals went into Buffalo and smacked them around.

Yeah, that's true. And beating the Rams in LA wouldn't have been easy.

But that was the most talented Buffalo team on both sides of the ball. They just had a terrible 4th quarter and OT defensively. Allen was more mistake prone back then but played a flawless game. Also, they had Gabe Davis.

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926759)
This is some ****ing loser ass bullshit. :LOL:

No. Just pointing out there's a lot riding on this game for both teams.

They've had more success against us than any team. The Bengals had some but we've beaten them now three consecutive games.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2025 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926764)
No. Just pointing out there's a lot riding on this game for both teams.

They've had more success against us than any team. The Bengals had some but we've beaten them now three consecutive games.

Until they win a game against us that matters, they aren't the Bengals.

staylor26 01-21-2025 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926764)
No. Just pointing out there's a lot riding on this game for both teams.

They've had more success against us than any team. The Bengals had some but we've beaten them now three consecutive games.

LMAO

We're 3-0 against them in the playoffs. Nobody gives a **** about any past regular season games when you dominate them in the playoffs.

RollChiefsRoll 01-21-2025 10:12 AM

I think on Sunday it’s time to have Patrick run out of the tunnel to Sirius:

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BWillie 01-21-2025 10:13 AM

I don't think the Bills can score enough points to win at Arrowhead. They are gonna have to score 31. This defense is cookin

Bearcat 01-21-2025 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926719)

Losing Sunday would give them four wins in their last five games against us. .

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ThaVirus 01-21-2025 10:17 AM

My keys to the game:

Sense of urgency on offense. It’s incredible how efficient this offense can look when it truly needs to be. Too many times does this offense stagnate and stall while it seems we’re comfortable doing just enough to keep pace with our opponent to pull out some ****ery in the 4th quarter for the win.

I’d like to see us come out with a real sense of urgency from start to finish. Act as if every down, every drive is important.

Apply pressure on Josh Allen. This is pretty broad, but he is their best player and the lifeblood of their offense. We can apply pressure by 1) harassing him in the pocket 2) winning on early downs to keep them out of 3rd and 4th and short 3) playing tight coverage with different, exotic looks.

I mentioned elsewhere that having lost to us so many times has changed their team. I think we’re going to get a version of them that goes for it on every 4th and short beyond midfield. To prevent that, we need to win on the early downs by stopping the run. Keep them in 3rd and long as often as possible then get off the field when you do.

They’ve adopted the tush push and they’re very good at it. 3rd and 2 or less will basically turn into an automatic 1st down if we’re not careful.

Win or tie the turnover battle. It’s been mentioned quite a bit but this Bills team feeds on winning the turnover battle.

During their game against the Ravens, at one point Allen got stood up on a QB sneak and looked like he was going to pitch the ball to a back behind him. He’s generally been much safer with the ball this year but he’s itching to give it up.

And obviously we don’t need any of our guys giving them the ball.

Rainbarrel 01-21-2025 10:20 AM

Bills stopping Barkley, I question

DJ's left nut 01-21-2025 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17926735)
Jeffri Chadiha On 810, big surprise… He Picked the Bills.. States the Bills will run the ball well and we won’t sack Josh Allen … Thinks the Bills has a top 3 offensive line..

This nails it for me.. We will win the game…

Well they beat Baltimore so Buffalo must be the greatest team of all time.

I don't know why anyone listens to Chadiha. 810 has him on for pure rage bait.

BigRedChief 01-21-2025 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post

If the Chiefs don’t get it done, will you be happy for and root for Josh Allen?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 17926707)
What the actual ****.

THIS! Are you insane, Deberg?

O.city 01-21-2025 10:21 AM

The Chiefs OL has to show up and play well. If Mahomes is under duress all day we're gonna be in trouble.

ThaVirus 01-21-2025 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926809)
The Chiefs OL has to show up and play well. If Mahomes is under duress all day we're gonna be in trouble.

Yep, we also need good Pat to show up. If he’s shaky, it just makes things so much harder.

In his defense, he has played really well against the Bills in the postseason. Hopefully he keeps that trend going this weekend.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-21-2025 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17926801)
My keys to the game:

Sense of urgency on offense. It’s incredible how efficient this offense can look when it truly needs to be. Too many times does this offense stagnate and stall while it seems we’re comfortable doing just enough to keep pace with our opponent to pull out some ****ery in the 4th quarter for the win.

I’d like to see us come out with a real sense of urgency from start to finish. Act as if every down, every drive is important.

Apply pressure on Josh Allen. This is pretty broad, but he is their best player and the lifeblood of their offense. We can apply pressure by 1) harassing him in the pocket 2) winning on early downs to keep them out of 3rd and 4th and short 3) playing tight coverage with different, exotic looks.

I mentioned elsewhere that having lost to us so many times has changed their team. I think we’re going to get a version of them that goes for it on every 4th and short beyond midfield. To prevent that, we need to win on the early downs by stopping the run. Keep them in 3rd and long as often as possible then get off the field when you do.

They’ve adopted the tush push and they’re very good at it. 3rd and 2 or less will basically turn into an automatic 1st down if we’re not careful.

Win or tie the turnover battle. It’s been mentioned quite a bit but this Bills team feeds on winning the turnover battle.

During their game against the Ravens, at one point Allen got stood up on a QB sneak and looked like he was going to pitch the ball to a back behind him. He’s generally been much safer with the ball this year but he’s itching to give it up.

And obviously we don’t need any of our guys giving them the ball.

Agreed.

We seemingly flipped the switch against the Texans and Steelers in the regular season, then suddenly turned it off against the Texans in the playoffs? It needs to be flipped, we need to be locked in and have that sense of urgency to get through this game.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2025 10:30 AM

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Pushead2 01-21-2025 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17926801)
My keys to the game:

Sense of urgency on offense. It’s incredible how efficient this offense can look when it truly needs to be. Too many times does this offense stagnate and stall while it seems we’re comfortable doing just enough to keep pace with our opponent to pull out some ****ery in the 4th quarter for the win.

Apply pressure on Josh Allen. This is pretty broad, but he is their best player and the lifeblood of their offense. We can apply pressure by 1) harassing him in the pocket 2) winning on early downs to keep them out of 3rd and 4th and short 3) playing tight coverage with different, exotic looks.

These are it right here

RedinTexas 01-21-2025 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17926787)
LMAO

We're 3-0 against them in the playoffs. Nobody gives a **** about any past regular season games when you dominate them in the playoffs.

I think of NFL games as three stages.

1 - Preseason games. Most teams don't care at all and are not trying to win these games. Some teams that have been bad or have a really young roster might try to win, but for the most part, nobody cares and the only people really trying hard are the players trying to make a roster.

2 - Regular season games. Everyone is trying to win these games, but almost nobody will risk the future for the sake of a single regular season game. Things change when you get near the end of the season and some games essentially become playoffs, but you don't want to lose the war because you fought a battle for a Pyrrhic victory.

3 - Playoff games. Everyone tries to win these games. You don't sacrifice a player's health, but OTOH, everyone plays with pain in the playoffs. There is no tomorrow if you lose, so you don't hold anything back. Win this game and then deal with the results as you get ready for the next one.

Given all that I ask, just how much was Andy trying to win that game against Buffalo? We had a perfect record at the time, but does anyone really think Andy would concern himself with chasing a perfect season? There were playoff seeding concerns at the time, but I don't think Andy was much worried about that. I am not saying that Andy played to lose that game, but I am saying that I don't think Andy was willing to show his entire hand to win it.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-21-2025 10:32 AM

Like it's been said, we really need to win 1st and 2nd down on defense. 3rd and short against this team is such a mountainous task. They'll go for it probably 4-5 times on 4th down against us if it's within 2 yards, and with Cook and Allen, they're incredibly efficient at converting.

Bearcat 01-21-2025 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17926801)
My keys to the game:

Sense of urgency on offense. It’s incredible how efficient this offense can look when it truly needs to be. Too many times does this offense stagnate and stall while it seems we’re comfortable doing just enough to keep pace with our opponent to pull out some ****ery in the 4th quarter for the win.

I’d like to see us come out with a real sense of urgency from start to finish. Act as if every down, every drive is important.

Yeah, they can absolutely still turn it on when needed, despite the lack of good execution overall this season.. I thought the Texans game would be similar to the Ravens AFCCG and they'd look surgical out of the gate, but still have confidence it'll happen this weekend... and of course will need to be for 60 minutes as they won't be able to just shut it down at halftime because Playoff Lamar is on the opposite sideline (darn).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17926801)

Apply pressure on Josh Allen. This is pretty broad, but he is their best player and the lifeblood of their offense. We can apply pressure by 1) harassing him in the pocket 2) winning on early downs to keep them out of 3rd and 4th and short 3) playing tight coverage with different, exotic looks.

I mentioned elsewhere that having lost to us so many times has changed their team. I think we’re going to get a version of them that goes for it on every 4th and short beyond midfield. To prevent that, we need to win on the early downs by stopping the run. Keep them in 3rd and long as often as possible then get off the field when you do.

They’ve adopted the tush push and they’re very good at it. 3rd and 2 or less will basically turn into an automatic 1st down if we’re not careful.

It's always an interesting and usually frustrating chess match of containing him... not over-pursuing, keeping lanes, etc.

Hammock Parties 01-21-2025 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17926818)
Agreed.

We seemingly flipped the switch against the Texans and Steelers in the regular season, then suddenly turned it off against the Texans in the playoffs? It needs to be flipped, we need to be locked in and have that sense of urgency to get through this game.

The Chiefs punted once and had 0 turnovers, my dude.

They didn't score as many TDs, but for what this game was, the offense was fine.

TwistedChief 01-21-2025 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926719)
Losing Sunday would give them four wins in their last five games against us. It's somewhat similar to the feeling before the Bengals AFCCG in 2022. We had to win that game to shut that team up.

It could not possibly be more dissimilar.

Beating the Bengals was slaying a dragon. Super high emotional leverage game that would've meaningfully demoralized the fanbase had we lost. Right now we're coming off 2 consecutive SB wins and playing a team that we've beaten 3 times in the playoffs previously. This is just the icing on top of a great run.

How dare you compare it to that game against the Bengals? Are you even a real Chiefs fan?!

Red Dawg 01-21-2025 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926820)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Texans are the first team in NFL postseason history to outgain their opponent by 100 yards, have 0 turnovers, and lose. <br><br>Prior to the Texans, teams were 49-0 in such games. Unreal. �� <a href="https://t.co/NUI6eSEb7g">pic.twitter.com/NUI6eSEb7g</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1880780504473190868?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This has been posted many times. Knock it off. Nobody cares about this useless stat.

Coochie liquor 01-21-2025 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926830)
The Chiefs punted once and had 0 turnovers, my dude.

They didn't score as many TDs, but for what this game was, the offense was fine.

The only rough series from the offense was after the Texans long ass drive coming out of halftime. The next offensive possession was nails.

Mr. Plow 01-21-2025 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17926726)
The bolded is pretty disingenuous. They had 4 turnovers.

So the last sentence I agree with.

True. But the Ravens were moving the ball very well against that defense. The Lamar fumble & the Andrews fumble killed two good drives that most likely end in points.

Rausch 01-21-2025 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926679)
You're gonna have to be aggressive me thinks.

It's the AFCCG. You can count on it.

All the marbles here kids. The curious thing is if he keeps Thuney at LT or not because that limits some of the things they can do.

From this point forward most of the pass rush pressure is coming up the middle - not the outside with DE's.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-21-2025 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17926842)
It could not possibly be more dissimilar.

Beating the Bengals was slaying a dragon. Super high emotional leverage game that would've meaningfully demoralized the fanbase had we lost. Right now we're coming off 2 consecutive SB wins and playing a team that we've beaten 3 times in the playoffs previously. This is just the icing on top of a great run.

How dare you compare it to that game against the Bengals? Are you even a real Chiefs fan?!

If anything, it's the exact opposite. We are the dragon that the Bills have to slay.

Mr. Plow 01-21-2025 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17926789)
I don't think the Bills can score enough points to win at Arrowhead. They are gonna have to score 31. This defense is cookin

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Hammock Parties 01-21-2025 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17926847)
The only rough series from the offense was after the Texans long ass drive coming out of halftime. The next offensive possession was nails.

No, the Chiefs answered the Texans TD with their own TD.

I was wrong though, they punted twice.

Our worst offensive possession was right after Karlaftis got the sack on 4th down. 3 plays, 1 yard.

Chiefs had 7 legitimate offensive drives in that game and 5 ended in scores. Against that defense? Just fine, just fine.

staylor26 01-21-2025 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926878)
No, the Chiefs answered the Texans TD with their own TD.

I was wrong though, they punted twice.

Our worst offensive possession was right after Karlaftis got the sack on 4th down. 3 plays, 1 yard.

Chiefs had 7 legitimate offensive drives in that game and 5 ended in scores. Against that defense? Just fine, just fine.

Yea, I think people are forgetting the fact that the Texans had the ball for almost the entire 3rd Q.

Curé 01-21-2025 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926455)
The human body just has limits.

A threepeat is a hell of a thing, and if we repeat 2023 with a lesser ending, don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926759)
This is some ****ing loser ass bullshit. :LOL:

Yup.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-21-2025 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17926818)
Agreed.

We seemingly flipped the switch against the Texans and Steelers in the regular season, then suddenly turned it off against the Texans in the playoffs? It needs to be flipped, we need to be locked in and have that sense of urgency to get through this game.

They did fine against the Texans after the slow start. Which was kind of expected after 3.5 weeks off.

Total yds were low because they only had 6 true drives. First possession started at the Houston 13, last possession before the half was a kneel-down, and then the intentional safety at the end.

Averaged about 3.3 points per drive which is good.

Houston's defense (especially the pass rush) is far better than Buffalo's.

BigRedChief 01-21-2025 11:08 AM

Our less than the usual "playoff Pat" in the last game could have been Andy holding his best plays for this game and the SB.

Maybe its also a matter of Mahomes comfort behind his line. Who knows what Andy is going to do? He could bring back the quick throws of the Pitt game or go with some deep balls when its obvious Mahomes isn't comfortable enough(yet) behind the line to make those deep plays work?

Bearcat 01-21-2025 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17926842)
It could not possibly be more dissimilar.

Beating the Bengals was slaying a dragon. Super high emotional leverage game that would've meaningfully demoralized the fanbase had we lost. Right now we're coming off 2 consecutive SB wins and playing a team that we've beaten 3 times in the playoffs previously. This is just the icing on top of a great run.

How dare you compare it to that game against the Bengals? Are you even a real Chiefs fan?!

Yeah, the Bengals had already won a game when it mattered the most... and one the Chiefs were comfortably leading. The regular season losses were just small thorns in the "won 3 of 4" narrative, then throw in "Burrowhead", the jabroni mayor, etc.

We're the Bills' demoralizer and have been for 5 years, not the other way around.

Buehler445 01-21-2025 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17926654)
All right, let's talk about the actual game.

How do the Chiefs win?

1. Be efficient on offense and protect the football. Stay ahead of the chains, wrap up on the ball in the open field. Get the ball out quickly.

2. Attack the Bills' back 7. The safeties aren't great - especially if Taylor Rapp does not play. The CB room is not great, especially if Taron Johnson is injured/lesser and Binford is out from the concussion (I expect him to play, though). The LB play hasn't been fantastic this season. Terrel Bernard hasn't been as good as last year (and has played through a lot of nagging injuries) and Matt Milano is playing with basically one arm right now.

3. Block Ed Oliver. He has been problematic for the Chiefs' offense in recent matchups.

4. Don't let Josh Allen and James Cook run wild. The Bills have a strong running attack and lean into it. The 6-OL approach has been successful. Can the Chiefs' respond to that and hold up against the run with the standard 43 set? Seems like Leo Chenal has to come up big against that 6th OL, a task we've seen him handle before.

5. Defend the middle of the field more effectively. The Chiefs' defense has been outstanding, except for when teams can exploit the middle of the passing field. KC did a pretty good job the first time around, and Buffalo ended up making some big plays down the field against man coverage (Nazeeh Johnson) that honestly were fantastic throws and catches by Allen and his receivers as much as anything else. Hopefully this is an area where Jaylen Watson can make a difference.

6. Be aggressive on 4th downs inside Bills' territory, because you know they're going to be aggressive on you. I'm not saying you pass up points if you're in FG range early (take the points in the first half), but 4th and 3 or shorter needs to be attacked.

7. Lean on Kareem Hunt in the run game. Especially on 3rd downs and in the red zone. It's amazing Pacheco has made it back to this point, but he clearly isn't fully himself right now (and his lack of vision is a real problem with this OL).

8. Spy Josh Allen on 3rd downs and especially on 4th downs that are not tush push. I'd love to see KC break out the game that has been used against KC - with power rushes to the QB's left hand, and a spy looping around for when the QB scrambles right. Allen is much, much better scrambling to his right than his left (though he is still dangerous there, both with his legs and his arm - as that amazing tight window TD pass to Shakir against Sneed in last year's divisional round shows).

9. Make the Bills regret trading with the Chiefs so they could get Xavier Worthy. We saw some of it in the regular season game. Go back to that. Especially with Hopkins fully integrated and Marquise Brown available.

Good post. Here are some points I'd like to see.

1. Make them stop what's working. I understand tendencies breakers all that shit is for the regular season. It's ****ing go time, I've you can bludgeon them to death with the run, do it.

2. Make them get through protection. Lamar had ALL ****ING DAY back there. If we can do that for Mahomes, let the rape flow.

3. Focus on Cook. Especially early. I don't love sitting here saying "Make Allen beat us." Because he might. But If you can make them one dimensional, I like our odds better.

It's ****ing go time boys. I'd hate to have wasted all that effort to let these fools beat us.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-21-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17926899)
Our less than the usual "playoff Pat" in the last game could have been Andy holding his best plays for this game and the SB.

Maybe its also a matter of Mahomes comfort behind his line. Who knows what Andy is going to do? He could bring back the quick throws of the Pitt game or go with some deep balls when its obvious Mahomes isn't comfortable enough(yet) behind the line to make those deep plays work?

Aside from a little rust in the beginning, I'd say Mahomes was good. His numbers would be better if receivers hadn't dropped like 5 passes.

That defense held Allen to 9/30 passing.

KC_Lee 01-21-2025 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926809)
The Chiefs OL has to show up and play well. If Mahomes is under duress all day we're gonna be in trouble.

Would like to see some more designed rollouts or moving pocket. They did a few times in the second half with the Texans and Mahomes had plenty of time.

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17926806)
Bills stopping Barkley, I question

The Rams didn't stop Barkley and still almost won the game.

Allen and Mahomes are more mobile than the statue of Matt Stafford. The Eagles defense wasn't that impressive.

RunKC 01-21-2025 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17926809)
The Chiefs OL has to show up and play well. If Mahomes is under duress all day we're gonna be in trouble.

Mahomes will have time on Sunday. Against a significantly better defense they scored 23. I think they can definitely put up 30+ this week on that defense.

Also keep Kareem Hunt in mind. He had 3 weeks rest and then only 8 carries and 1 catch. They didn’t use him much.

I think Andy wants him to be full go for this game bc his 18-20 carries are gonna need to be very productive against the Bills

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926820)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Texans are the first team in NFL postseason history to outgain their opponent by 100 yards, have 0 turnovers, and lose. <br><br>Prior to the Texans, teams were 49-0 in such games. Unreal. �� <a href="https://t.co/NUI6eSEb7g">pic.twitter.com/NUI6eSEb7g</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1880780504473190868?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does that yardage amount count sacks?

They must have lost close to 100 yards surrendering 8 sacks.

brdempsey69 01-21-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926917)
Does that yardage amount count sacks?

They must have lost close to 100 yards surrendering 8 sacks.

They lost 58 yards on 8 sacks & Texans had 336 net yards in total Offense.

Megatron96 01-21-2025 11:37 AM

The only thing I'm concerned about defensively is that the last time we played BUF Spags' blitzes couldn't get home. BUF's OL picked up our rushers very well every time it seemed like. I know SPags will bring some different never-seen-before blitz packages, but if they aren't any more effective than last time, Josh cold post up some big numbers.

smithandrew051 01-21-2025 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17926935)
The only thing I'm concerned about defensively is that the last time we played BUF Spags' blitzes couldn't get home. BUF's OL picked up our rushers very well every time it seemed like. I know SPags will bring some different never-seen-before blitz packages, but if they aren't any more effective than last time, Josh cold post up some big numbers.

Our pass rush changed dramatically when Omenihu came back though.

Gary Cooper 01-21-2025 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96;17926935[B
]The only thing I'm concerned about defensively is that the last time we played BUF Spags' blitzes couldn't get home. [/B] BUF's OL picked up our rushers very well every time it seemed like. I know SPags will bring some different never-seen-before blitz packages, but if they aren't any more effective than last time, Josh cold post up some big numbers.

You're not concerned that Clete Blakeman's crew will call defensive holding and PI on every possession?

Megatron96 01-21-2025 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926944)
You're not concerned that Clete Blakeman's crew will call defensive holding and PI on every possession?



Lol, not really. Should I be? I'm pretty sure he'll be about as incompetent as he usually is. Been there, done that.

Megatron96 01-21-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17926943)
Our pass rush changed dramatically when Omenihu came back though.



THat's true. That, and FAU apparently coming into his own finally might be the extra edge we need, no pun intended.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-21-2025 11:52 AM

So we know there's gonna be a spy on sure passing downs

Who do you roll with?

I feel like using Jaden Hicks in that spot might be advantageous. At least on 3rd-and-6+ when you know they can't just run at a light box and pick it up. He's fast enough and big enough that Allen isn't going to punk him or outrun his angles.

I hope Spags is aggressive early and kinda lets the blitz create opportunities for the four-man rush as the game wears on. Never let Allen be comfortable. Even if it means giving up a big play or two, if you can get a turnover or two and not do that on offense, you probably win.

Mecca 01-21-2025 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17926944)
You're not concerned that Clete Blakeman's crew will call defensive holding and PI on every possession?

I'm not because no one does that in the playoffs.

Megatron96 01-21-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17926953)
So we know there's gonna be a spy on sure passing downs

Who do you roll with?

I feel like using Jaden Hicks in that spot might be advantageous. At least on 3rd-and-6+ when you know they can't just run at a light box and pick it up. He's fast enough and big enough that Allen isn't going to punk him or outrun his angles.

I hope Spags is aggressive early and kinda lets the blitz create opportunities for the four-man rush as the game wears on. Never let Allen be comfortable. Even if it means giving up a big play or two, if you can get a turnover or two and not do that on offense, you probably win.



Dunno, but I know that Spags used Leo vs. Lamar in Week 1, and that worked fairly well. If I had to guess, I think Spags may rotate the responsibility at some point, to try and confuse Josh. Let's say, start the game having Leo spying, then at some point in the 2nd half when we really need a big stop, switch to Hicks/Cook?

DRM08 01-21-2025 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17926820)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Texans are the first team in NFL postseason history to outgain their opponent by 100 yards, have 0 turnovers, and lose. <br><br>Prior to the Texans, teams were 49-0 in such games. Unreal. �� <a href="https://t.co/NUI6eSEb7g">pic.twitter.com/NUI6eSEb7g</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/1880780504473190868?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Houston lost 10 points on 4 plays by Special Teams. Long kick return gave 3 points to Kansas City. The Houston kicker missed 3 kicks adding up to 7 lost points for Houston. Doesn't matter how you do in the rest of the game if you completely shit the bed like this on Special Teams.

Megatron96 01-21-2025 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17926961)
Houston lost 10 points on 4 plays by Special Teams. Long kick return gave 3 points to Kansas City. The Houston kicker missed 3 kicks adding up to 7 lost points for Houston. Doesn't matter how you do in the rest of the game if you completely shit the bed like this on Special Teams.




On our side of the ball, let's take a moment to appreciate our STs and ST coach, Dave Toub, who, again, has been nails in the playoffs, with yet another blocked FG in a big moment.

TLO 01-21-2025 12:00 PM

I think the Josh Allen designed runs on 3rd down are going to be huge.

You don't stop those, and you got a 50/50 chance at best of winning.

But then you add Tyler Bass into the mix....

RunKC 01-21-2025 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17926953)
So we know there's gonna be a spy on sure passing downs

Who do you roll with?

I feel like using Jaden Hicks in that spot might be advantageous. At least on 3rd-and-6+ when you know they can't just run at a light box and pick it up. He's fast enough and big enough that Allen isn't going to punk him or outrun his angles.

I hope Spags is aggressive early and kinda lets the blitz create opportunities for the four-man rush as the game wears on. Never let Allen be comfortable. Even if it means giving up a big play or two, if you can get a turnover or two and not do that on offense, you probably win.

3rd and 3 or more is the ideal gameplan. They need to win early downs to force them into passing spots.

Can’t let them get in short yardage on 2nd and 3rd down.

DRM08 01-21-2025 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17926966)
On our side of the ball, let's take a moment to appreciate our STs and ST coach, Dave Toub, who, again, has been nails in the playoffs, with yet another blocked FG in a big moment.

Yep. That was an A+ game for Chiefs on Special Teams, compared to a F- game for Houston's Special Teams. Total opposite performances, lol

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-21-2025 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17926953)
So we know there's gonna be a spy on sure passing downs

Who do you roll with?

I feel like using Jaden Hicks in that spot might be advantageous. At least on 3rd-and-6+ when you know they can't just run at a light box and pick it up. He's fast enough and big enough that Allen isn't going to punk him or outrun his angles.

I hope Spags is aggressive early and kinda lets the blitz create opportunities for the four-man rush as the game wears on. Never let Allen be comfortable. Even if it means giving up a big play or two, if you can get a turnover or two and not do that on offense, you probably win.

Not that we don't do this, but that's a lot to ask of a rookie.

"Hey rook, it's 3rd down in the AFC Championship Game. Make sure Josh Allen doesn't run on us."

Mecca 01-21-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17926984)
Not that we don't do this, but that's a lot to ask of a rookie.

"Hey rook, it's 3rd down in the AFC Championship Game. Make sure Josh Allen doesn't run on us."

Most of the time when they do those looks, Reid moves up into the LOS role with Hicks playing deep.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-21-2025 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17926959)
Dunno, but I know that Spags used Leo vs. Lamar in Week 1, and that worked fairly well. If I had to guess, I think Spags may rotate the responsibility at some point, to try and confuse Josh. Let's say, start the game having Leo spying, then at some point in the 2nd half when we really need a big stop, switch to Hicks/Cook?

Why isn't Leo the obvious Spy choice in this situation? He's strong as a bull, he can probably take down Josh whereas most others can't, he's got the speed and the smarts. Is there some deficiency in his game I'm not accounting for?

Megatron96 01-21-2025 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17926989)
Why isn't Leo the obvious Spy choice in this situation? He's strong as a bull, he can probably take down Josh whereas most others can't, he's got the speed and the smarts. Is there some deficiency in his game I'm not accounting for?



I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Just saying, Spags likes to use a lot of misdirection, and switching things up at a key moment is right up his alley, so to speak, is it not?


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