Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14224050)

And my point was it’s not apples to apples.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14224061)

I am so tired of people turning this into "the chiefs are dumb they got rid of pass rushers to turn around and trade for a pass rusher"

God people are stupid as ****.

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14224060)

Flowers wouldn't have played in KC for the same contract he took with the Lions. He wanted to play with Patricia. I'm an idiot, but if I had to guess I would say Flowers would have come here for 5/100. Prior to this trade in three years the Chiefs wouldn't have anybody on contract getting paid more than $13m a year (if they cut Watkins by then). Mahomes, Clark, and Jones will ultimately be paid well over $13m a year, but the Chiefs will have plenty of money, and this is pointless to discuss prior to the new CBA, which will most likely raise the CAP a shit ton after streaming services and cable get into a bidding war.

I didn't know how to feel about this trade yesterday and was too busy to look at it until last night, but it is a good deal for the Chiefs. The FO felt there were only 15 first round players in this draft. I can't say that I disagree. I am sure it has been said in here many times by now, but the picks traded away for Clark were equal to trading up to 24 in this years draft. There is no player falling to the Chiefs at 24 that is anywhere near as good as Clark. He is 25 years old, a badass on the field, but does come with a shitty past baggage. If he stays out of trouble this will be looked back on as a great trade. Chiefs D is soft as **** the past 20 years. I'm excited to see the attitude our new safety and DE bring to the D unit.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14224016)

Who are you counting on to rush the passer off the edge then? They could have put all their eggs into a rookie they traded up for maybe, sure. But if he flops, your defense is a lot weaker as a whole than it is with Clark.

There is no way they end up not giving up a 2nd round pick by Thursday night IMO either way. They would have traded up and used one just like they did for Clark.

So the dilemma is Clark with a $21M salary and moving up 8 spots in the 3rd round, or a rookie for a few million but they aren’t proven to be a good player yet (and even if they are, they won’t be great in year one probably).

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14224064)

They got rid of damaged goods and brought in a flagship product.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14224063)

That was his point too.

They weren't going to get anybody like Frank Clark in this draft, even by spending a similar amount of capital.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14224061)

I am so tired of people turning this into "the chiefs are dumb they got rid of pass rushers to turn around and trade for a pass rusher"

God people are stupid as ****.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14224064)

They got rid of damaged goods and brought in a flagship product.

Originally Posted by Munson (Post 14224069)

Initially I was pissed, but after sleeping on it I feel better.

We can all agree that Clark will have an instant impact. Looking at his highlights, he plays with a mean streak that this team sorely needs.

But I still don't like how Veach seems to get hosed when trading draft picks. He's not very good at negotiating.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14224071)

should we go through the list of all the people we would have drafted in the first round if you had been the GM?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14224072)

A friend of mine has turned into Duncan...basically telling the domestic violence makes it a bad deal.

All I told him was if you have no desire to be on the ride then get off.