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Marcellus 07-30-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846330)
That's not really a troll.

Legit question.

Is our D that good, or does the OL suck?

No way to know, its 3 days in dude. Use your brain.

You will find out something over the next 3 or so preseason games. Until then it is just a bunch of BS.

Titty Meat 07-30-2013 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846330)
That's not really a troll.

Legit question.

Is our D that good, or does the OL suck?

Its July 30th and one of the first days in pads. Relax babe.

BossChief 07-30-2013 07:43 PM

I wasn't really talking to Clay with that post.

I was talking to the people that share that opinion.

Sully 07-30-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9846314)
These guys are just reporters. Not football analysts.

The OL is probably struggling with cohesiveness because 3 guys are with the 1st team right now that werent even playing last year.

Albert and Hudson are the only two that played significant time on the Chiefs line last year.

Our left guard and center didn't play last year (apart from the couple games Hudson started)

Fisher is playing a new position.

That paired with the fact that we are gonna be going away from Zone blocking and that means that even returning players are learning new techniques and it should be expected for them to be struggling early in camp.

Give these guys time to gel (that may take a few games into the regular season) and they are gonna be an impressive unit.

This
Add to that (I realize this is going to sound pompous), the average fan has little idea the job an O lineman is expected to do on a lot of plays.for example, a few preseason a ago, it looked like Albert was getting beat a ton on the left side on pass blocking. "He was flat out missing 'his' guy!"
But watching it, it was clear that the line was (for whatever dumbass reason) going to full slide protection toward the right, leaving that rusher 1v1 with a TE or back. I'd be willing to bet (again, condescension here, I know) no more than 10-15 people on this site could describe/identify/notice slide vs man vs combo blocking in pass pro.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my impression of most posters... As well as reporters.

RealSNR 07-30-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9846314)
These guys are just reporters. Not football analysts.

The OL is probably struggling with cohesiveness because 3 guys are with the 1st team right now that werent even playing last year.

Albert and Hudson are the only two that played significant time on the Chiefs line last year.

Our left guard and center didn't play last year (apart from the couple games Hudson started)

Fisher is playing a new position.

That paired with the fact that we are gonna be going away from Zone blocking and that means that even returning players are learning new techniques and it should be expected for them to be struggling early in camp.

Give these guys time to gel (that may take a few games into the regular season) and they are gonna be an impressive unit.

I'd like to see Stephenson play a bit more guard. Reid says you put the best 5 players on the starting offensive line, and I like far more what Don offers than Allen. Hell, even more than Asamoah potentially.

(You see that, frazod? When's the last time you had a football opinion like that? The ****ing Reagan administration?)

Hammock Parties 07-30-2013 07:46 PM

I remember the TC reports in 07.

Lots of people were raving about how the defense was ****ing monstrous and was kicking ass left and right (Napoleon Harris! Donnie Edwards! Tank Tyler!)

Turned out it was just the worst shit horrible OL we had perhaps ever had, and the D was no better than mediocre.

BossChief 07-30-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9846334)
Albert and Hudson are the only two that played significant time on the Chiefs line last year?

I think you meant Albert and Asamoah. Not Hudson

I was hoping to fix that before anyone noticed.

Thanks.

Coogs 07-30-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846330)
That's not really a troll.

Legit question.

Is our D that good, or does the OL suck?


Poe was getting some major props on Chiefs Live tonight. :shrug:

RealSNR 07-30-2013 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846344)
I remember the TC reports in 07.

Lots of people were raving about how the defense was ****ing monstrous and was kicking ass left and right (Napoleon Harris! Donnie Edwards! Tank Tyler!)

Turned out it was just the worst shit horrible OL we had perhaps ever had, and the D was no better than mediocre.

I think given our LBs, we've got a far more potent D than 2007's.

We'll be fine on D. It's got to be the offense's job to score points the way Reid claims they will. That's the way we're going to win football games if we are successful at all.

petegz28 07-30-2013 07:50 PM

I am just beyond shocked that the offense is behind the defense on day 3 of camp. Shocked I say....

Sorter 07-30-2013 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9846341)
This
Add to that (I realize this is going to sound pompous), the average fan has little idea the job an O lineman is expected to do on a lot of plays.for example, a few preseason a ago, it looked like Albert was getting beat a ton on the left side on pass blocking. "He was flat out missing 'his' guy!"
But watching it, it was clear that the line was (for whatever dumbass reason) going to full slide protection toward the right, leaving that rusher 1v1 with a TE or back. I'd be willing to bet (again, condescension here, I know) no more than 10-15 people on this site could describe/identify/notice slide vs man vs combo blocking in pass pro.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my impression of most posters... As well as reporters.

Ooooo, I do love it when backs have mike/Sam/ssf responsibilities

Titty Meat 07-30-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846344)
I remember the TC reports in 07.

Lots of people were raving about how the defense was ****ing monstrous and was kicking ass left and right (Napoleon Harris! Donnie Edwards! Tank Tyler!)

Turned out it was just the worst shit horrible OL we had perhaps ever had, and the D was no better than mediocre.

Yeah but that team was 4-3 and in first place ay one point. Probably the third best moment the last 10 years.

Hammock Parties 07-30-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9846368)
Yeah but that team was 4-3 and in first place ay one point. Probably the third best moment the last 10 years.

I don't expect this team will be in 1st place this year.

BossChief 07-30-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846344)
I remember the TC reports in 07.

Lots of people were raving about how the defense was ****ing monstrous and was kicking ass left and right (Napoleon Harris! Donnie Edwards! Tank Tyler!)

Turned out it was just the worst shit horrible OL we had perhaps ever had, and the D was no better than mediocre.

We are gonna have a stout front 7 if they stay healthy. Top ten kinda good...but the OL will take a little time to build cohesiveness.

Once this OL starts to click, it's gonna be one of the best lines in football.

Marcellus 07-30-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9846344)
I remember the TC reports in 07.

Lots of people were raving about how the defense was ****ing monstrous and was kicking ass left and right (Napoleon Harris! Donnie Edwards! Tank Tyler!)

Turned out it was just the worst shit horrible OL we had perhaps ever had, and the D was no better than mediocre.

OMG, I remember in 2003 when we had a great TC and destroyed people for 9 weeks straight.

You do realize not 1 single previous training camp has anything to do with this one right?

Of course you dont.


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