Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12632448)

In red

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12632418)

Truth be told, Alex weighs little in the calculus for me.

He's proven he can win. He's proven he can come back [Chargers, Broncos]. He's proven he can ball out in the playoffs [Colts].

Does he do it all the time? No. But if he CAN, yet he DOESN'T, it's not an ironclad conclusion that he CAN, except when he alone CAN'T.

The bulk of the calculus after judging Alex capable shifts to trusting Andy and Dorsey to both keep frosty on roster evaluation and keep vigilant on new talent acquisition.

If Dorsey and Andy still have faith, I'm rolling with them. If they target a QB, wherever they target, be it a blockbuster trade, a later draft steal or even betting the farm on a blue chipper. I'll trust that as well.

As it stand now, Alex is not 'the' problem. Those who try to single out scapegoats in a team game are simpletons.

And all, and I mean ALL, the talk about the Hunts only want 'mediocrity' and are actively thwarting an express need, voiced by Andy/Dorsey and disregarded, for a better QB out of fear or cheapness is reeruned bullshit.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12632339)

ROFL

Every Alex fan just loves reverting to a TEAM stat in their rebuttals, that should be weighted more towards defense and special teams points.

Out of all the fans that have witnessed this scenario before, you have done it up front and personal. I have to admit you have some massive gonads to keep taking the abuse this franchise feeds you year after year.

You are in LALA land man, just like you were with Matt Cassel and company.

Because, Chiefs.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12632468)

You can't have it both ways. You can't admit that Clark is not holding Andy and Dorsey back from either riding and dying with Alex or getting someone else, then turn around and hold the failures of the 90s against the current regime.

Outside some random secretaries and hot dog vendors, the 2016 Chiefs have zero in common with the organization of even a decade ago. Half the people you harbor resentments against were pooping Pampers when Bono, Grbac and Kreig were underperforming. Even Alex was just getting hair on his balls when Grbac left town.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12632544)

It boils down to this...

Alex/Andy both get the blame from me. Whatever they are doing is NOT working, it's obvious, and they don't seem to be doing anything to try and fix it. We've seen the same shit all season.

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12632544)

It boils down to this...

Alex/Andy both get the blame from me. Whatever they are doing is NOT working, it's obvious, and they don't seem to be doing anything to try and fix it. We've seen the same shit all season.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12632565)

"Whatever they are doing" includes not getting the ball, or trying to get the ball, to play makers. First touch by Hill, fifty yard TD run. Hey, lets not give him the ball the rest of the game, that makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12632565)

"Whatever they are doing" includes not getting the ball, or trying to get the ball, to play makers. First touch by Hill, fifty yard TD run. Hey, lets not give him the ball the rest of the game, that makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12632565)

"Whatever they are doing" includes not getting the ball, or trying to get the ball, to play makers. First touch by Hill, fifty yard TD run. Hey, lets not give him the ball the rest of the game, that makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12632624)

This is the most frustrating thing to me.

It's so damn obvious, it really makes me question...

Just how smart is Andy Reid?

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12632722)

Well, over the past seasons... I've witnessed more of the "can't manage the clock, bonehead decisions, who refuses to run the ball" Andy that I heard about from the Eagles fans.

I def have not witnessed the "QB whisperer, guru, genius" guy that some claim him to be.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12632416)

Must be really hard to understand for professional coaches then. Andy, damn you, don't you understand?!? :facepalm:




You don't get to play this game. You lost this privilege when you use general yardage, TD, and team yard totals to criticize one player (QB). They are ALL team stats... derived from their HC's philosophy.

It's football. It is ALL team results.

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12632416)

Must be really hard to understand for professional coaches then. Andy, damn you, don't you understand?!? :facepalm:




You don't get to play this game. You lost this privilege when you use general yardage, TD, and team yard totals to criticize one player (QB). They are ALL team stats... derived from their HC's philosophy.

It's football. It is ALL team results.

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12632411)

What is the picture you have in your head of how this board used to talk about Matt Cassel? Honest question. Do you seriously believe that the CP hate for a QB can't get any worse?

Dude...it was 2-3 times as bad in the Cassel era... Did you know that?