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ToxSocks 03-21-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867606)
I'd use a 1 if it was Flowers or Addison, those guys would fit very easily into what Reid does.

I love me some Flowers, but he may be a bit redundant, idk.

Addison would be amazing, but i think he's one of the first, if not THE first WR off the board.

I see Addison and am reminded of Jeremy Maclin.

Couch-Potato 03-21-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16867593)
This WR room is shoddy enough that if they traded for Hopkins and used a 1 on a WR you could justify it.

Whooo'boy! Could you imagine J Addison, Z Flowers, or J Hyatt along with Hopkins?! We'd be stacked!

I'd probably prefer locking down the trenches if we get Hopkins and taking a guy that needs some polish like J Mingo later in the draft.

O.city 03-21-2023 12:49 PM

Mahomes making big money demands some shortcuts be made somewhere. The big hits of the last few draft years give you some runway though to do some things if you want to.

Kiimo 03-21-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16867615)
Whooo'boy! Could you imagine J Addison, Z Flowers, or J Hyatt along with Hopkins?! We'd be stacked!


Just wait until we trade for Justin Jefferson!

TribalElder 03-21-2023 12:51 PM

Ok, bring on D-Hop

Mecca 03-21-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16867614)
I love me some Flowers, but he may be a bit redundant, idk.

Addison would be amazing, but i think he's one of the first, if not THE first WR off the board.

I see Addison and am reminded of Jeremy Maclin.

The WR class is all over the place but it's not out of the question that any of them could be there.

ToxSocks 03-21-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16867614)
I love me some Flowers, but he may be a bit redundant, idk.

Addison would be amazing, but i think he's one of the first, if not THE first WR off the board.

I see Addison and am reminded of Jeremy Maclin.

Addison and Flowers are the only two WR's i'd bother with in the 1st. Maybe Smith-Njigba too.

Otherwise i'd rather the Chiefs focus on DL or S and then go WR in a later round.

Couch-Potato 03-21-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867604)
This draft has some really good edge talent. There's no way they should draft a tackle in the 1st. It's a waste of resources.

Why? OT is an expensive position and plays every down. We picked up Taylor because he's versatile and willing to play either LT or RT. Sort of signals to me that we might take our LT of the future at #31 and ask him to play RT initially the same way OBJ started his career. If our new OT surpasses Taylor in ability, Taylor is willing to move to RT.

RunKC 03-21-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867604)
This draft has some really good edge talent. There's no way they should draft a tackle in the 1st. It's a waste of resources.

Tackle is probably the 2nd hardest position to find in the league after QB. You just don’t see the types of guys Andy prefers being available often. 6’5”, 300+, 34 arms, 9.5+ hands and strength to boot. There aren’t that many humans with those characteristics.

Hell we saw how long it took with Fisher.

Never ever discount a quality tackle. Remember Wylie was just as bad as Orlando and they got lucky that the gameplan changed to quick outs against the Bengals and a water slide filed neutralized both teams pass rush.

Give me a good RT over a WR 100/100 times. If Patrick has time he’ll make it work with damn near anybody at WR

ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16867525)
Here's the thing - when you listed our WR corps, you said "minus Juju".

Where are you getting almost 80 receptions and 900 yards to replace him?

Just lay it out for us.

What's your "ideal" plan for the WR group?

Let the guys on the roster step up and build depth around them.

As someone mentioned Skyy only got 33 targets last year. Why is that? Probably because he was sitting behind Juju. He's a second year player now.

But that's not all, the draft has yet to take place. We're going to get some young receivers and the camp battles will be epic. We're going to be just fine.

Megatron96 03-21-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16867585)
Noting that Kelce is considered our #1 WR at 34 yrs old but CP also knocking Hopkins for being 30 yrs old.

I've refrained from mentioning this, because I don't want to get into the Travis' future health/production purely speculative conversation, but yeah, it is pretty dissonant. Travis will be fine at 34 because he's a Chief, DHop@30 won't because he isn't. Okay.

Couch-Potato 03-21-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16867636)
I've refrained from mentioning this, because I don't want to get into the Travis' future health/production purely speculative conversation, but yeah, it is pretty dissonant. Travis will be fine at 34 because he's a Chief, DHop@30 won't because he isn't. Okay.

Yeah, a few things to set straight here guys...

1) If Kelce can produce elite numbers in KC at 34, so can Hopkins at 30.

2) No one cares about Sky Moore's development being hindered by Hopkins, who is a current top 10 elite WR.

3) Hopkins has missed some games, but he's more likely to complete a full season than Toney as our #1.

4) Hopkins has indicated he'd be flexible with his contract, and it's now being reported for a second time.

5) Yes, a late 2nd or 3rd would be expensive BUT there are no WRs in those rounds that would contribute to a SB the way Hopkins can over the next 2 seasons.

Continue...

ThyKingdomCome15 03-21-2023 01:10 PM

That's it, because you guys are getting testy we're not trading for Hopkins now. Go to your rooms and don't come out until you've had a change in attitude.

Chiefnj2 03-21-2023 01:14 PM

If you have a chance to protect your franchise QB, you do it. I’m sick of watching a hobbled Mahomes in the playoffs holding my breath every time someone makes an ankle tackle on him.

Couch-Potato 03-21-2023 01:16 PM

Kelce
Hopkins
Toney
McKinnon

Those are really good Top 4 targets IMO, better than last year especially after Toney's settled in a bit more.


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