ChiefsPlanet - Life *.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*

That's cool - honestly I feel totally lost as to how many calories to intake, daily.

I know we've been down this road in the older thread - I simply have forgotten the formula. Not sure it matters - but I'm 6' 1" -- 183 LBS - would like to add some additional muscle - but not interested in getting ginormous, or very big - Just want to add some more meat - and rip. I'm already on my way - but truthfully I'm not sure if I've been ingesting 2k cals. or 2,500 cals. - per day - but in the areana.

How can I find the right approach - and maybe, what should that approach be?

First, figure out how much you eat every day, macros and all.

Then, evaluate your goals. Are you losing fat? Are your lifts improving? If you aren't losing fat, and that's your goal, decrease calories. If you are more concerned about your lifts going up without adding a lot of fat, then increase calories by 500 per day for two weeks and see what happens. If your lifts go up but you put on too much fat, decrease the calories a little bit and track again for two weeks. It's really just a matter of dialing it in.

Silock

04-13-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10561189)

You guys argue about a lot of shit.

That's because there's a lot of shitty advice floating around out there.

Simply Red

04-13-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10561223)

ok - cool - that's been my approach.

Saccopoo

04-13-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10561220)

To a point, yes. The big changes happen though when you clean up the diet. You can't out train a shitty diet.

That's the truth.

I think that whole "dirty bulk" thing is horseshit. Now there's some steriods for you right there.

Cutting out the alcohol was the single biggest change - at least for me as I have always ate pretty well (no fast food, lots of whole grain fiber, minimal sugars/transfats, etc.). It's amazing how that shit holds you down when you are trying to train/lift/build.

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A three-week study that had men and women consume 30-40 g alcohol per day, showed a 6.8% reduction in testosterone for the men and none for the women at the end of the study-period. That's three beers a day for three weeks and a measly 6.8% reduction in testosterone for the men. What kind of an effect would you think a few beers on an evening once or twice a week would have? Hardly any.

For alcohol to significantly lower testosterone, you need to do some serious drinking. ~120 g alcohol, the equivalent of 10 beers, will lower testosterone by 23% for up to 16 hours after the drinking binge. If you drink so goddamn much that you are admitted to the hospital, you get a similar effect with a reduction of about -20%.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15166654

Easy 6

04-13-2014 10:00 PM

You don't have to cut out the alcohol, Sacc... just the KINDS of alcohol you drink.

Shot of whatever < a beer.

Saccopoo

04-13-2014 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10561223)

Saccopoo

04-13-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10561309)

You don't have to cut out the alcohol, Sacc... just the KINDS of alcohol you drink.

Shot of whatever < a beer.

To the body, alcohol is alcohol regardless of what form it originates from.

Hammock Parties

04-13-2014 10:08 PM

how can scott free be so wrong in every post?

BigCatDaddy

04-13-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10561318)

To the body, alcohol is alcohol regardless of what form it originates from.

I'm thinking he is referring to the amount on empty calories in beer as opposed to a shot, not the "type of alcohol" so to speak. He will have to clarify that one.

BigCatDaddy

04-13-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Douche Baggins (Post 10561322)

how can scott free be so wrong in every post?

You obviously haven't seen his contributions to the Geno threads :D

Easy 6

04-13-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 10561226)

That's because there's a lot of shitty advice floating around out there.

If I gave Luv advice that didn't fit female physiology and you corrected it, then fine and I'm glad you did, for all of my experience, none of it involved womens studies.

But from a pure weight loss philosophy, every single tactic I mention is pure gold and you nor anyone else can take that away from me... I'm actually glad you corrected my assumptions about female physiology, but a mistake there doesn't negate the truth of how I operate from a mans perspective.

Low fat + strenuous effort = Winning

Easy 6

04-14-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10561327)

You obviously haven't seen his contributions to the Geno threads :D

Oh no, now I gotta do this again, dammit BCD... I don't give a flip if every fitness guru in America agrees, what I do works.

The common denominator is hardcore workouts.

Easy 6

04-14-2014 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10561318)

To the body, alcohol is alcohol regardless of what form it originates from.

Bull. shit.

Beer carbs are much harder to work off than no carb vodka/vodka tonic shots... so, eat the baked potato with dinner and get those carbs, but don't take in empty beer carbs whenever possible.

So the so called experts want to pile on, it doesn't matter a bit, what I do works, it works quick and it has for years... most people who say I KNOW THE ONLY WAY are FOS.

Silock

04-14-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10561459)

Why are you so defensive? I wasn't specifically talking about you.

You train however you want. I don't give a ****. You do you. I only get involved if people ask my opinion or they're saying something that's totally wrong.

Silock

04-14-2014 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10561465)

most people who say I KNOW THE ONLY WAY are FOS.

NO ONE IS SAYING THIS BUT YOU

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