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Discuss Thrower 12-12-2015 11:31 AM
Cliff Lee!

nychief 12-12-2015 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11946350)
I don't think that's the final lineup/everyday lineup, but the 2-6 (Moustakas/Cain/Hosmer/Morales/Perez) is not bad at all.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Denard Span in LF if Gordon is not resigned. Good defense + good OBp skills are the priority there for me (which is why I like the Korean OF Kim as well, or Dexter Fowler, even). The. That LF hits 2, and Moustaksas can return to the 6 spot and bump perez down.

They don't need an amazing offense. Just league average-ish.

Add A Kazmir or Chen + a LF option who can hit second, and I consider it a good offseason.

I think we'll add another starter from Kazmir, Kennedy or the like... then an outfielder of some sort via trade... Blackmon or Cargo.

KChiefs1 12-12-2015 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11946350)
Add A Kazmir or Chen + a LF option who can hit second, and I consider it a good offseason.

Have you given up on Leake?

BigCatDaddy 12-12-2015 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11946355)
Cliff Lee!
I think Medlen ia our Cliff Lee. Not KC can take 2 similar gambles.

duncan_idaho 12-12-2015 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11946360)
Have you given up on Leake?
Yeah. He seems to want to stay on the West Coast/Arizona. Have been no connections with him and KC.

tk13 12-12-2015 12:15 PM
We were incredibly lucky that we went through the playoffs with a lineup that was dangerous 1-9. I think next year fans are going to struggle with the fact we'll have holes in our lineup like most normal teams do. Even Joe Buck said we were the most relentless lineup since the 98 Yankees, and that is one of the greatest teams in the history of baseball. 95 Indians were probably like that too, everybody could hit. It's just tough to build something that consistent.

Sure-Oz 12-12-2015 12:21 PM
Umm Royals may want to just see what they could get for Herrera oe Davis....wow!

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Phillies’ trade of Giles bigger than initially reported. 5-for-2, Velasquez and Appel got to PHI with Eshelman, Arauz and Oberholtzer.

suzzer99 12-12-2015 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11946389)
We were incredibly lucky that we went through the playoffs with a lineup that was dangerous 1-9. I think next year fans are going to struggle with the fact we'll have holes in our lineup like most normal teams do. Even Joe Buck said we were the most relentless lineup since the 98 Yankees, and that is one of the greatest teams in the history of baseball. 95 Indians were probably like that too, everybody could hit. It's just tough to build something that consistent.
Yeah it's just frustrating - if our TV contract happened to come up last year we could sign Gordon and Zobrist no problem and be WS favorites for the next 2 years. Or if we were a big market team we could keep most of this core together, and who knows what they could do.

Kidd Lex 12-12-2015 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11946397)
Yeah it's just frustrating - if our TV contract happened to come up last year we could sign Gordon and Zobrist no problem and be WS favorites for the next 2 years. Or if we were a big market team we could keep most of this core together, and who knows what they could do.
Lets hope these low ball years pay off and the tv contract signed becomes even more ridiculous than if it were inked today. Usually I'd just assume the bubble would burst #becauseroyal - but im thinking we can retire that phrase after the last 2 magical years.

suzzer99 12-12-2015 01:16 PM
I think the Royals are going to suck in 2018 and 2019. Which will hurt the TV deal.

Saul Good 12-12-2015 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11946396)
Umm Royals may want to just see what they could get for Herrera oe Davis....wow!

@Ken_Rosenthal: #Phillies’ trade of Giles bigger than initially reported. 5-for-2, Velasquez and Appel got to PHI with Eshelman, Arauz and Oberholtzer.
We absolutely should.

Discuss Thrower 12-12-2015 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11946485)
We absolutely should.
I mean, what other reason to acquire Soria if not to prepare for a Davis/Herrera-less bullpen?

penbrook 12-12-2015 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11946493)
I mean, what other reason to acquire Soria if not to prepare for a Davis/Herrera-less bullpen?
7th- Herrera
8th- Soria
9th- Davis

tk13 12-12-2015 02:00 PM
Davis and Herrera have logged a ton of heavy miles on their arms because they've pitched into the WS two years in a row. That's probably the biggest reason. I expect Ned will take it easy on them early next year. I'm afraid we'd never get enough value back for Davis. He's put up unprecedented numbers.

duncan_idaho 12-12-2015 02:10 PM
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Four years of Kelvin Herrera should fetch a fairly similar return as what the Astros just gave up for five years of Giles.

Have to see what's out there for Herrera, IMO, if that's the Going rate.


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