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Tonka83 09-06-2023 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17088870)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones: “It’s always been my goal to be a Chief for life. I’ve said that multiple times. They know where my position is at.”<br><br>I asked him, minutes later, if the talks could change his mind about his future: “I’m under contract for this year. That’s an answer for Clark Hunt.”</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1699486501954793633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"I'm under contract"
"I'm not going to honor my contract"

choose one

Marcellus 09-06-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17088870)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones: “It’s always been my goal to be a Chief for life. I’ve said that multiple times. They know where my position is at.”<br><br>I asked him, minutes later, if the talks could change his mind about his future: “I’m under contract for this year. That’s an answer for Clark Hunt.”</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1699486501954793633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yea that's just real evidence the dumbshit isn't thinking very clearly at all.

OnTheWarpath15 09-06-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 17088875)
"I'm under contract"
"I'm not going to honor my contract"

choose one

Seriously, **** this guy.

WhawhaWhat 09-06-2023 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 17088875)
"I'm under contract"
"I'm not going to honor my contract"

choose one

Don't hate the player, hate the game. The owners are no different in not honoring contacts they sign.

This is just part of the business.

notorious 09-06-2023 12:33 PM

Put the negotiations aside, that's great he's hanging out with the people at that event.

They've been through hell, and he's brightening their day. Pretty cool.

OnTheWarpath15 09-06-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17088884)
Put the negotiations aside, that's great he's hanging out with the people at that event.

They've been through hell, and he's brightening their day. Pretty cool.

At least he honors *some* of his commitments.

T-post Tom 09-06-2023 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17088858)
Chris Jones' employment future if he continues to rely on clown show agents...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5XGP4LW...name=4096x4096

Someone please tie his shoes before he trips and gets injured…..

duncan_idaho 09-06-2023 12:43 PM

I'll give Jones some credit for showing up and doing his things and having a good attitude about it. It would be easy for him to pout and let it affect him.

Provides some hope that he'll show up and be normal whenver he does show up.

saphojunkie 09-06-2023 12:44 PM

Guys you seriously have to stop thinking of contracts as something the player has to HONOR. It's not an oath to play football. The owners don't fully guarantee the FEE so why do you expect the player to guarantee the SERVICE?

There are loads of reasons to want Chris Jones traded - some of us have been saying it since last season. There are myriad ways he is dumb and continues to make dumb, limited thinking decisions based on myopic... I'll call it pride not greed.

But CJ holding out is nothing to be upset about. It's his right to not work and not get paid. He's being penalized for his actions. It's dumb not unethical.

FlaChief58 09-06-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17088776)
As I've said before, the brother on the left is good friends with my sister's best friend.

He was telling my sister this weekend that everybody hates him now and he's getting death threats

Tell her I said he needs to meet me at best buy so I can kick him in his nuts

saphojunkie 09-06-2023 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17088900)
I'll give Jones some credit for showing up and doing his things and having a good attitude about it. It would be easy for him to pout and let it affect him.

Provides some hope that he'll show up and be normal whenver he does show up.

I'd feel better about it if his agents weren't there with PR reps. makes the whole thing feel like a big staged theater piece to curry favor.

Don't bring your dipshit agents, don't talk to the press. Hand out hamburgers, say hi to kids, and get back to your two a day workouts

FloridaMan88 09-06-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17088901)
Guys you seriously have to stop thinking of contracts as something the player has to HONOR. It's not an oath to play football. The owners don't fully guarantee the FEE so why do you expect the player to guarantee the SERVICE?

There are loads of reasons to want Chris Jones traded - some of us have been saying it since last season. There are myriad ways he is dumb and continues to make dumb, limited thinking decisions based on myopic... I'll call it pride not greed.

But CJ holding out is nothing to be upset about. It's his right to not work and not get paid. He's being penalized for his actions. It's dumb not unethical.

The non-guaranteed contracts are part of a system that has been collectively bargained between the owners and the NFLPA.

If Chris Jones doesn't like the system, then he should take it up with his union.

Otherwise, under the current rules... agreed to by his union... he is in breach of his current employment contract.

OnTheWarpath15 09-06-2023 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17088905)
I'd feel better about it if his agents weren't there with PR reps. makes the whole thing feel like a big staged theater piece to curry favor.

Don't bring your dipshit agents, don't talk to the press. Hand out hamburgers, say hi to kids, and get back to your two a day workouts

And that's it.

No one is saying he doesn't have a right to hold out. We as fans also have a right to say it's a bad look for him to be favoriting tweets about him being traded, telling reporters he wants to be a Chief for life while also reminding everyone he's under contract, bringing his agents along to make a charity function look like a PR event, fighting for a couple extra million dollars when Mahomes and Kelce have taken less to keep him on the roster, etc.

Hold out as long as you want, Chris. Meanwhile, I'll call you out for acting like an asshat about it.

raybec 4 09-06-2023 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17088905)
I'd feel better about it if his agents weren't there with PR reps. makes the whole thing feel like a big staged theater piece to curry favor.

Don't bring your dipshit agents, don't talk to the press. Hand out hamburgers, say hi to kids, and get back to your two a day workouts

In his defense, the media was going to cover the "Red Wednesday" Ronald McDonald house thing regardless of whether he was there or not. Having his agent watch the whole thing does feel kind of smarmy though.

arrowheadnation 09-06-2023 12:53 PM

I think the fact that his agents are physically in town is a huge positive. In-person negotiating is more effective than doing it over a phone. Go to the Chiefs offices, lock them and Veach in a room, and get it done.


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