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Prison Bitch 12-13-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 11948036)
I'd trade Herrera in a second for a nice haul like that.

Yeah but he wouldn't bring anything close to that

SAUTO 12-13-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11948050)
Yeah but he wouldn't bring anything close to that

Why?

Anyong Bluth 12-13-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11946294)
25 man roster as of today

Starters
Miguel Almonte
Danny Duffy (LHP)
Kris Medlen
Yordano Ventura
Edinson Volquez

Relievers
Louis Coleman
Chirs Young
Wade Davis
Brian Flynn (LHP)
Kelvin Herrera
Luke Hochevar
Joakim Soria

Catchers
Drew Butera
Salvy

Infielders
Christian Colon
Alcides Escobar
Eric Hosmer
Mike Moustakas
Raul Mondesi

Outfielders
Lorenzo Cain
Jarrod Dyson
Paulo Orlando
Brett Eibner
Jose Martinez

DH
Kendrys Morales

DFA Infante... the guy is a black hole. He plays 1 position, doesn't hit, can't run, old.. provides zero except Money sink and takes a valuable roster spot. See if he'll go to AAA, if not, bye-bye.

That's not a lot to get excited about, with two big question marks at corner outfield. Infield is slightly better than last year. Not quite as strong in the bullpen with the loss of Holland and Madsen, but Soria very well could fill a hole. Tim Collins will start out in AAA as he works back from TJ. Not a lot of consistent success in the Rotation outside of Volquez... But the ability is there.

Without adding a lot of payroll, kick tires on Corner OF's for a package around Herrera. Try to sign Parra.

I might even see what you could possibly get for Moustakas while his value may be high.... You have Cuthbert who could step in with basically similar production.

No, and no!

You're not going to get immediate value from moving Moose.

That's just a horrible idea. Did you just premise the idea that because Cuthbert is available that Moose is a chip to cash in?

I don't see any feasible way you trade Mike and improve your opening day 25 man roster.

I'm sure the fans would be super pumped for 2016 minus Gordo, Moose, and BZ!

The Mooseman, whose got those antlers mounted on top of his jeep, would probably drive straight into the K in outraged protest.

Anyong Bluth 12-13-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11946623)
I think Gordon's consistency and excellence over the past four seasons have also affected people's memories, too.

It is a deal that looks great in hindsight, but Alex signed that extension after his breakout 2011. He had only one "GREAT" season in the majors, and the Royals guaranteed him $52 million.

If he had proven unable to adjust once the league adjusted to his offensive approach changes, KC could been on the hook for a lot of guaranteed cash for little return.

Thank you. Gordon's contract was NOT a hometown discount! He got a fair contract based on his performance. He simply put together better play more in line with what was projected from him. Thus, his contract simply became a bargain for the organization.

Anyone telling you otherwise simply did not keep up with the Royals 4 to 5 years ago.

Prison Bitch 12-13-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11948155)
Why?

Well, he's not as good as Giles, as cheap as Giles, or as far from FA as Giles.



In other news, Mike Cuddyer pulls a Meche and retires with 12.5 owed this year. Maybe Blowfish is right about Sweeney.

duncan_idaho 12-13-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11948656)
Well, he's not as good as Giles, as cheap as Giles, or as far from FA as Giles.







In other news, Mike Cuddyer pulls a Meche and retires with 12.5 owed this year. Maybe Blowfish is right about Sweeney.


He's two years closer to FA, but Giles' return does indicate the return for Herrera should be pretty high.

You can debate how good each is pretty closely. They're both elite guys. Giles has more swing and miss because of his slider, but he is less proven than Herrera as well (who has 3.75 years of elite performance as a relievers under his belt).

Chiefspants 12-13-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 11948405)
Anyone telling you otherwise simply did not keep up with the Royals 4 to 5 years ago.

Hey now. I've been a diehard since the Beltran and Sweeney days. I guess I'm the outlier in this debate.

KChiefs1 12-13-2015 04:57 PM

Via Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe:

"A few teams, including the Royals and Cubs, inquired about Jackie Bradley Jr. at the Winter Meetings but were told by the Red Sox he was not available.

"The Royals have had their eye on Bradley as a possible replacement for Alex Gordon. The Red Sox and Royals also engaged in trade talks for Wade Miley before Miley was traded to the Mariners along with Jonathan Aro for reliever Carson Smith and lefty Roenis Elias. The Red Sox, according to one major league source, asked the Royals for hard-throwing reliever Kelvin Herrera, but Kansas City preferred to give up Luke Hochevar. The Red Sox opted for the Mariners deal."

KChiefs1 12-13-2015 05:10 PM

Pitcher Mike Leake is willing to take significantly less to play at home in Arizona, according to sources who spoke with Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. However, D’Backs COO Tony La Russa says it’s “probably unlikely” that the team will sign him.

“It’s gone back and forth,” La Russa said. “Getting Shelby (Miller) gives us a (full) rotation. I think it’s difficult because when somebody wants to pitch for you and you really like the person, you want to try and work it out. But it’s complicated and probably unlikely.”

KChiefs1 12-13-2015 05:18 PM

Here’s a look at the World Champions:

The Royals are among the many teams with interest in Scott Kazmir, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets. Kazmir met with the Astros last week to explore the possibility of a return to Houston, but it remains to be seen whether that reunion will take place. The soon-to-be 32-year-old has thrown 373 1/3 innings of 3.33 ERA ball with 7.7 K/9 against 2.6 BB/9 and he’s maintained his average fastball velocity at about 91.5 mph. Still, long-term questions remain about Kazmir’s elbow, and then there’s the fact that he struggled to a 6.52 ERA over the months of September and October. More notable, perhaps, are the declining metrics he put up last year: a 3.98 FIP, 4.14 xFIP, and 4.10 SIERA.
The Royals are once again open to moving second baseman Omar Infante, Andy McCullough of the Kansas City Star tweets. Of course, it could be tough for the Royals to find a decent haul for Infante given his age and contract. Roughly two years ago, the Royals signed Infante to a four-year deal for more than $30MM plus incentives with a $10MM team option for 2018.
Royals GM Dayton Moore says that his front office is only monitoring the Alex Gordon situation for now, as Jeffrey Flanagan of MLB.com writes. When asked if Gordon is even within their financial reach, Moore said, “I don’t know. We’ll see. I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t know because I don’t know what [the asking price] will ultimately be. We’re still in the market for an outfield bat. But we also know this: If we do nothing in the outfield, we’ll still be very good defensively at the corner outfield — we’ll have speed and upside with Jarrod Dyson, Paulo Orlando and Brett Eibner and Reymond Fuentes. Jose Martinez isn’t the defender those guys are but has offense. We’ll see.”

ChiefsCountry 12-13-2015 09:07 PM

National media saying what Duncan and me have been saying for a while
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/s...options-121215

cmh6476 12-13-2015 09:14 PM

gotta suck if you're hochevar seeing your name thrown out there like you're chopped liver.

Chiefspants 12-13-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11952051)
gotta suck if you're hochevar seeing your name thrown out there like you're chopped liver.

Meh, it's a business (we could very well lose him after next year) and I'm sure he was told in advance that a trade would be possible over the offseason.

Prison Bitch 12-14-2015 10:17 AM

We are open to moving Infante.

I'm also open to moving my 20 year old couch in the basement

dmahurin 12-14-2015 11:23 AM

https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/sta...51827156656128. Pete Rose's ban indeed was not lifted by commissioner rob manfred.

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