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aturnis 04-18-2018 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13520908)
you know Dan well the Chiefs will have to over pay especially if it's out in the open.

This won't be a friendly deal on KC's end

Disagree. Trade values were pretty fair last year. With the additional freedom to trade centre more willingness to do so.

aturnis 04-18-2018 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13521017)
Losing Peters is a sunk cost.

If we aren’t going to have him this year using the picks we got from him to help this years team isn’t stealing from the future. It’s utilizung currency as it’s earned.

It's also devaluing that currency though as next years second is only worth a third this year.

aturnis 04-18-2018 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13521291)
There will be a major purge of veteran corners after the draft and they could fill that final role with a cut.

Not to mention camp casualties.

Tribal Warfare 04-18-2018 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13521355)
Disagree. Trade values were pretty fair last year. With the additional freedom to trade centre more willingness to do so.

The Marcus Peters trade is a good template. If the Chiefs are desperate they'll forgo a fair market trade.

I truly thought the Chiefs would get a 1st round pick out the Rans trade

aturnis 04-18-2018 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13521358)
The Marcus Peters trade is a good template. If the Chiefs are desperate they'll forgo a fair market trade.

I truly thought the Chiefs would get a 1st round pick out the Rans trade

? The Peters trade doesn't count. If they had any leverage to play hardball, they'd have gotten soothing for him.

The Chiefs were getting rid of him. Not interested in keeping him. The entire league knew it. We held zero cards beings we wanted to move him early before the draft. It's really too bad most of the league was scared of him.

If they wanted to hold onto him for a trade during the draft, or even after to a team who didn't get the CB help they were looking for in the draft, they couldn't had more.

They were moving on in a hurry. They got what they could.

Tribal Warfare 04-18-2018 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13521359)
? The Peters trade doesn't count. If they had any leverage to play hardball, they'd have gotten soothing for him.
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The Chiefs were getting rid of him. Not inte
rested in keeping him. The entire league knew it. We held zero cards beings we wanted to move him early before the draft. It's really too bad most of the league was scared of him.



They got what they could.


If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.

Bewbies 04-18-2018 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13521360)
If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.

You don’t have the biggest brain, or the best brain.

tmax63 04-18-2018 09:56 AM

The trade value chart has held up for a long time. It may not be followed exactly but it's a good benchmark to start from. Adding Golden moves Sorenson back to part-time doing what he did 2 years ago quite well. Moving up and getting a "compete for starter" CB would help the secondary immensely. They got rid of a lot of trash and have picked up replacements that look to be better on paper. Fuller, Amerson, Golden, Williams, Hitchens. Ford, Berry healthy. Ragland, Houston, Jones. There's 10 of 11 starters. Adding 2-3 bodies able to push for starting time and depth is needed but just adding 1 CB and I would like this group quite a bit over last year's.

Chargem 04-18-2018 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13521360)
If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.

I think wanting to trade up and being desperate are not the same thing. I honestly wouldn't mind Parry Nickerson or Nick Nelson in the 3rd or 4th, if one of the more polished cornerbacks either isn't available at 54 or a reasonable trade up can't be achieved.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-18-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13521356)
It's also devaluing that currency though as next years second is only worth a third this year.

This.

That second round pick will be worth a lot more next year than it will this year. Best to hold onto till next year. If they want to package it in a trade then, so be it.

Bewbies 04-18-2018 11:55 AM

I'd not want to trade that 2 next year, having 2 picks in the 2nd round will be nice.

BryanBusby 04-18-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13521831)
I'd not want to trade that 2 next year, having 2 picks in the 2nd round will be nice.

2019 is going to be an amazing ****ing draft to fill what the Chiefs desperately need. Pass-rushers.

No ****ing way am I dumping off early 2019 picks considering we need all of that shit, badly. If they want to move up for a corner this year, hey ok whatever I guess but don't use anything more than one of the extra 3rds we already hold. **** robbing tomorrow for today.

RunKC 04-18-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13521831)
I'd not want to trade that 2 next year, having 2 picks in the 2nd round will be nice.

I would.

All of the best corners will be gone by pick 40, maybe late 30’s. It’s going to be just like the receivers in the 2014 draft. Pick 78 is only worth 200 points ( enough to move up to the 44th pick), so the Chiefs would have to trade multiple picks (likely 78 and 124) to move that high. We obviously can’t afford to pick only 3 times in the top 4 rounds.

Chiefs need depth and quality at corner. Replace Peters with a good player now and keep your picks to add depth.

O.city 04-18-2018 12:35 PM

I'd do what I had to do to get a corner if they project him to be a legit outside guy.

Otherwise, I'd stick with Bryan and keep that pick.

Mother****erJones 04-18-2018 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13521834)
2019 is going to be an amazing ****ing draft to fill what the Chiefs desperately need. Pass-rushers.

No ****ing way am I dumping off early 2019 picks considering we need all of that shit, badly. If they want to move up for a corner this year, hey ok whatever I guess but don't use anything more than one of the extra 3rds we already hold. **** robbing tomorrow for today.

That’s where I’m at. If I can move 54 and one of the 3s and something else? Probably. I’m all for keeping that pick and I said as much a couple pages ago in this thread


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