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milkman 04-14-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
all in all, good conversations. I understand the reasoning behind BPA, but I'm a balance type guy and think there are still some limits, I would like to get a good talented guy that helps us this year not in the next couple of years, with our first round pick.

I will say this, I'm ready for the draft, I want to see how this all unflolds, should be fun.

I will also say, no matter who we pick; what's the over/under that Logical hates the pick?

I agree.
There should be a balance.

However, if there's a guy at a position of strength sitting there that's clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the available players, then you simply can't pass that pick up in favor of another position.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:31 PM

You basically want a 1 player draft.........

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Don't worry I'm great on draft day if I don't like the pick I'll swear constantly and throw things at the TV.

I think a WR would start for us from day 1 and be atleast as productive as what we had there last year and that being in his developmental 1st year.


I like the idea of a WR.....







just not Ginn..... :p

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:33 PM

It's what you like, Ginn has the ability to seperate and make big plays and help you on special teams......Jarrett is likely not going to be able to stretch the field and doesn't play special teams.

milkman 04-14-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumpy
I would do it in a heartbeat. Get a Levi Brown. Get a good prospect at CB in the third. And maybe get some good speical team players in the late rounds.

I'm glad you aren't the GM.

We have far too many holes to fill to be concerning ourselves with targeting one player, or one position, to simply throw away draft picks to get that player or fill that position..

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman
I'm glad you aren't the GM.

We have far too many holes to fill to be concerning ourselves with targeting one player, or one position, to simply throw away draft picks to get that player or fill that position..

He's overvalueing the idea of 1 player in football, this isn't the NBA here.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
It's what you like, Ginn has the ability to seperate and make big plays and help you on special teams......Jarrett is likely not going to be able to stretch the field and doesn't play special teams.


we could pro/con each other to death. Ginn is speedy but has trouble with press coverage and not a good blocker. He does have some special team prospect I just think we have this WR already, Webb. He did good returning last year, he's fast and can do everything you want Ginn for.

I like Bowe over Jarrett, point blank. but both of them are bigger possession recievers that can run block, these we need, the only one we have like this is Gardner, mmmmm. Kennison is a great blocker and still pretty fast. Having Bowe on the other side instead of Parker, sounds good. throw in Web as a Dante's replacement = even better.

Mecca 04-14-2007 01:42 PM

I'm sorry Jeff Webb as a returner will put us in the bottom 3rd of the league in return yards......for anything you can say about Ginn he is an electrifying special teams player.

I think people need to realize Jeff Webb dropped in the draft because he may have run a 4.4 but no one believed he played at 4.4. He's a backup WR that plays special teams, not as the returner mind you. This idea that he's gonna be this productive WR and special teams returner you'd think he was a 1st or 2nd round pick.

milkman 04-14-2007 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
we could pro/con each other to death. Ginn is speedy but has trouble with press coverage and not a good blocker. He does have some special team prospect I just think we have this WR already, Webb. He did good returning last year, he's fast and can do everything you want Ginn for.

I like Bowe over Jarrett, point blank. but both of them are bigger possession recievers that can run block, these we need, the only one we have like this is Gardner, mmmmm. Kennison is a great blocker and still pretty fast. Having Bowe on the other side instead of Parker, sounds good. throw in Web as a Dante's replacement = even better.

I don't like Ginn because he dropped a number of easily catchable passes in the games I watched.

But I sure as hell am not ready to rely on a project like Webb.

Chiefnj2 04-14-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg
We will probably have 5 starters next year from that draft. That's awesome.

We hear that every year.


Just you wait, Wilkerson would have been a 1st round pick if he stayed in school one more year - he'll be great with a little playing time under his belt. Thorpe has great speed, you can't teach that, just wait until he gets the system under his belt for one year.

Was 2005 a great draft year? You got two full time starters that first year - DJ and Colquitt and a special teams player in Grigsby.

When you are doing your own mock draft for KC this year do you say to yourself, "Boy, I hope the guys from rounds 2-7 put in 3 starts between them and get some special teams play. That would be a great draft!"

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman
I don't like Ginn because he dropped a number of easily catchable passes in the games I watched.

But I sure as hell am not ready to rely on a project like Webb.


didn't he do pretty well last year, standing in for Hall, the very first time he returned one pretty far..... fifty yards.

I guess I didn't know he was a bust too, damn. Well go for Ginn than Carl/mecca.....

Mecca 04-14-2007 02:00 PM

I just want to know why people really think we can count on guys like Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon.......counting on them for anything is playing with fire....

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I just want to know why people really think we can count on guys like Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon.......counting on them for anything is playing with fire....




Yes sir, Carl/mecca. Sorry didnt' mean to put my opinion on the board, I should have known that your opinion, since it was posted first, didn't need any other information and should just be accepted as truth. Sorry dude.

crazycoffey 04-14-2007 02:03 PM

I never said we can count on Webb, I said we already have a Ginn on our roster with mr. Webb. That is all, thanks for playing.

Mecca 04-14-2007 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey
I never said we can count on Webb, I said we already have a Ginn on our roster with mr. Webb. That is all, thanks for playing.

You really think Jeff Webb is half the return man Ginn is.......how many times you watch Ohio State play?


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