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bkkcoh 04-24-2008 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 4706015)
QFT. bkkcoh, seems as if Im not the only one who doesn't agree with you eh?


All I am saying is that I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. It almost seems as if there are more people that agree with my stance then yours. But that isn't the point. Is it?????

Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4706020)
All I am saying is that I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. It almost seems as if there are more people that agree with my stance then yours. But that isn't the point. Is it?????

Gholston won't get out of the top 10, even if we pass him...if NE covets him at 7 that has to say something

keg in kc 04-24-2008 12:10 PM

Weekly World News has a story breaking on the 2000-year old paternity suit between Mary and Joseph. Apparently modern DNA study reveals Gholston as the father.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4706020)
All I am saying is that I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 pick. It almost seems as if there are more people that agree with my stance then yours. But that isn't the point. Is it?????

HUH?

I've yet to see ANYTHING that suggests Gholston isn't a Top 10 pick.

I haven't seen any legit sites mock have him go any later than 7 to NE.

bkkcoh 04-24-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 4706022)
Gholston won't get out of the top 10, even if we pass him...if NE covets him at 7 that has to say something


But as stated in another Gholston thread, he isn't a good fit for the Chief's defense unless we go to a 3 -4 type of defense, I don't think we can take a chance on another undersized DE like Hali.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706027)
HUH?

I've yet to see ANYTHING that suggests Gholston isn't a Top 10 pick.

I haven't seen any legit sites mock have him go any later than 7 to NE.

NE is in a totally different position then the Chiefs, if the Chiefs were solid and didn't have any glaring holes, I would understand taking a chance on Gholston, but not in the position the Chief's are in.

Gholston may end up as a multi-time all-pro. But so did a lot of other teams that have passed up on players like Brady, Montana and such. Drafting and scouting isn't an exact science at all.

Coogs 04-24-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706000)
Not to mention, you've got scouts/writers saying that his motor is his biggest asset, and others saying it's his biggest weakness.

Which means it is probably somewhere in the middle? :shrug:

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 4706032)
Which means it is probably somewhere in the middle? :shrug:

Agree.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4706028)
But as stated in another Gholston thread, he isn't a good fit for the Chief's defense unless we go to a 3 -4 type of defense, I don't think we can take a chance on another undersized DE like Hali.

He's the same size as Jared Allen.

Allen slimmed down to around 265 last year. Gholston's combine weight was 266.

Sure-Oz 04-24-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706045)
He's the same size as Jared Allen.

Allen slimmed down to around 265 last year. Gholston's combine weight was 266.

Right....i think the height is 3" shorter for gholston but the dude is built like a freakin diesel

bkkcoh 04-24-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706045)
He's the same size as Jared Allen.

Allen slimmed down to around 265 last year. Gholston's combine weight was 266.

There is more to fitting into a system then size.

Are you saying that the players are identical?

Brock 04-24-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bkkcoh (Post 4706122)
There is more to fitting into a system then size.

Are you saying that the players are identical?

I'm not. Gholston is stronger and faster.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4706127)
I'm not. Gholston is stronger and faster.

Exactly.

Jared Allen didn't fit the profile of a NFL DE in a 4-3 scheme either.

Christ, he was drafted as a long snapper.

If Gholston doesn't fit a 4-3 scheme, then why are the Rams and Raiders hot and heavy over him?

DaKCMan AP 04-24-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706137)
Exactly.

Jared Allen didn't fit the profile of a NFL DE in a 4-3 scheme either.

Christ, he was drafted as a long snapper.

If Gholston doesn't fit a 4-3 scheme, then why are the Rams and Raiders hot and heavy over him?

The Rams are in heat over the best player in the draft, Glenn Dorsey, and no one has any clue as to who the Raiders want.

OnTheWarpath15 04-24-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4706143)
The Rams are in heat over the best player in the draft, Glenn Dorsey, and no one has any clue as to who the Raiders want.

The Rams have been split, according to reports here. Haslett wants Dorsey, while the football operations/scouting department wants Long. Gholston's been mentioned as Linehan's pick.

I've heard several times that the Raiders will take Gholston over McFadden.

DaKCMan AP 04-24-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4706177)
The Rams have been split, according to reports here. Haslett wants Dorsey, while the football operations/scouting department wants Long. Gholston's been mentioned as Linehan's pick.

I've heard several times that the Raiders will take Gholston over McFadden.

I wouldn't be upset if St. Louis grabbed Gholston.


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