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Ceej 08-07-2008 11:38 AM
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Baby Lee 08-07-2008 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by markk (Post 4897747)
I agree. No doubt really that he's guilty, people are just asking for the state not to impose the sentence that the judge imposed?

I have no doubt that his attitude is different now that the day of reckoning for what he's done is approaching. But people like this don't deserve an exception to be made for them. He can't complain about the hand he dealt himself.
FTR, this appears to be a jury imposed sentence.

Lzen 08-07-2008 11:40 AM
I watched Alpha Dog the other day. This situation reminds me of that in a way. Even though I like the Frankie character (and I guess the real person if this were similar to how he was in real life), but he deserved whatever punishment he ended up getting. The guy knew what was about to happen and didn't do anything to stop them from killing an innocent kid.

RJ 08-07-2008 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 4897706)
I tend to agree with Mic. I've sort of come full circle on this issue over the last 10 years. I'd rather the guy rotted in prison.

As an aside, if he is given the chair, I'm not going to shed a tear for him.


I can see a good argument for abolishing the death penalty and if that ever happened I'd be ok with the decision. But having said that, as long as it exists this is the sort of case it exists for.

PhillyChiefFan 08-07-2008 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 4897748)
I had an . . . acquaintence, wouldn't call him a friend, interacted with him more than most, but everybody bagged on him [he was a Claythan type, not that I'm suggesting Claythan has this guy's bad qualities, but he was the doughy boy who reveled in being picked on]. When I was in college, he and a buddy of his called upon a guy who had advertised a car for sale, test drove the car with the guy, killed him and took off in the car.
THAT is just plain sick...wow! It is scary to think that people think so little of people's lives...

Micjones 08-07-2008 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan4Life (Post 4897742)
Animals do have the ability to reason, just not to the extent of humans

Nice try though
So, let me make sure I've got this straight.
Animals can't reason like Humans do, but Humans and Animals are equal?
Gotcha...

Midnight_Vulture 08-07-2008 11:43 AM
Liberals have already pussified this great country of ours enough.

The death penalty needs to stay. In fact they need to go back to firing squad or something more painful than lethal injection.

Seriously, strike some fear into these murderers. Dont give them a painless death.

ChiefsFan4Life 08-07-2008 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897768)
So, let me make sure I've got this straight.
Animals can't reason like Humans do, but Humans and Animals are equal?
Gotcha...
I never said they are equal and I don't believe that but you are sitting here telling people "who are we to judge the value of a life" and in the same breath can say without doubt that animals lives are different than human lives.

So I am wondering where you get the ability to selectively judge life?

Lzen 08-07-2008 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 4897765)
THAT is just plain sick...wow! It is scary to think that people think so little of people's lives...
That is exactly why we need the death penalty. And more of it, IMO. I think a lot of these scumbags know that the punishment won't be as severe as death and so they don't think of the consequences as much.

Skip Towne 08-07-2008 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897735)
The Justice System is flawed.
And innocent people have been put to death.
This can be argued both ways.
Tell that to Luther Plant. Oh, wait, you can't. Agofsky stomped him to death.

Micjones 08-07-2008 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan4Life (Post 4897776)
I never said they are equal and I don't believe that but you are sitting here telling people "who are we to judge the value of a life" and in the same breath can say without doubt that animals lives are different than human lives.

So I am wondering where you get the ability to selectively judge life?
Human life Albert. Human life.
You're not going to make an argument that Human life and Animal life are comparable. That's just a lame attempt at making me look like a hypocrite. It won't work. Because you've already conceded that Human life is much more sacred.

ChiefsFan4Life 08-07-2008 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture (Post 4897773)
Liberals have already pussified this great country of ours enough.

The death penalty needs to stay. In fact they need to go back to firing squad or something more painful than lethal injection.

Seriously, strike some fear into these murderers. Dont give them a painless death.
Honestly, I'd love it if in this world they gave the victim's families a specified time alone in the room with the guilty party to do whatever they please

I know if someone did something to any of my family members I would love to be able to slowly and painfully torture them

Lzen 08-07-2008 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture (Post 4897773)
Liberals have already pussified this great country of ours enough.

The death penalty needs to stay. In fact they need to go back to firing squad or something more painful than lethal injection.

Seriously, strike some fear into these murderers. Dont give them a painless death.
I don't really like you from the bike thread, but your last 2 posts actually made me question my original impressions.

ChiefsFan4Life 08-07-2008 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 4897784)
Human life Albert. Human life.
You're not going to make an argument that Human life and Animal life are comparable. That's just a lame attempt at making me look like a hypocrite. It won't work. Because you've already conceded that Human life is much more sacred.
Don't get mad because you are talking in circles and not making sense and people are calling you out on it, Nancy.

Micjones 08-07-2008 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture (Post 4897773)
Liberals have already pussified this great country of ours enough.

The death penalty needs to stay. In fact they need to go back to firing squad or something more painful than lethal injection.

Seriously, strike some fear into these murderers. Dont give them a painless death.
Yeah, to Hell with compassion.
Let's get back to original American ideas like Slavery and Land-Stealing.


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