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Micjones 10-10-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5102329)
Ah. I can see that point, Mr. Micjones. I thought you meant Gonzo held back our WR corps "developmentally". My oopsies if I misinterpreted your intent.

If your post was solely in regard to drafting, I have to agree with you.

FAX

I can't take credit for that point (though I do agree whole-heartedly).
Suds79 deserves the credit.

dirk digler 10-10-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5102312)
I can't believe some of you guys can be so cavalier about trading Gonzo. Other than DT, he's the best player we've had in the last 40 years. And now, because the franchise has screwed things to such an extent, he'll retire in a different uniform. If this isn't justification for a complete fan revolt, I don't know what is.

FAX

I agree Fax and I am shocked that possible CP is even thinking about this.

blaise 10-10-2008 05:37 PM

I don't see the big deal. It reminds me of when the Bruins traded Ray Bourque. He was a Hall of Fame type player, he was the face of the franchise, he was beloved in Boston when they traded him to the Avalanche. Then he won the Stanley Cup. For the most part Bruins fans were happy for him. There was no real animosity.
I'm not from here, and I'm not a lifelong Chiefs fan so I can't totally relate but I don't see the big deal.

aturnis 10-10-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5102255)
They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.

Why would they need to move up to get anyone?

evolve27 10-10-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5102413)
Why would they need to move up to get anyone?

The Rams, Lions, and Bengals are bad, real bad.

Frankie 10-10-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 5101786)
Boal said on 810 this morning that the Eagles called about TG and Carl hung up before hearing an offer.

The Eagles have just lost their RB. They need to call us about LJ, not TG.

chiefs1111 10-10-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 5102122)
Well, we just scored 0 points with him last week, so it's not like we can score negative points without him.

You wouldn't think so,but trust me Herm will find a way.

Shag 10-10-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5102255)
The fact that they're even shopping him tells you all you need to know about what they think of Croyle.
If they thought Croyle could develop into a quality starting QB they'd want Tony there for him to throw to this year. They're pretty much done evaulating him.
This tells me they've given up on Croyle, they don't care what happens to him this year, if he keeps getting the snot kicked out of him that's fine. They're trying to accumulate as many draft picks as they can in case they like a QB and want to move up to get him.

I think that's a bit of a stretch. If the front office is indeed looking to move TG, my guess is that it's because they've realized how far this team needs to go, as a whole, to be competitive. At absolute best, the Chiefs are 2 years from competing for a playoff spot, most likely longer. TG will offer little value by the time that happens, so if they can get good value that will help the team more long term, they'll take it.

I'd hate to see TG leave, but if it does happen, I hope he goes to a team with a legit shot at a championship.

LOCOChief 10-10-2008 05:48 PM

Maybe the rams, but the bungholes have Palmer and they have needs on the other side of the ball. come to think of it we do also.

Shag 10-10-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5102419)
The Eagles have just lost their RB. They need to call us about LJ, not TG.

LJ doesn't really fit the Philly offense - he's vastly different than Westbrook and Buckhalter, and how they like to use their backs...

Frankie 10-10-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5101795)
He's someone the defense has to account for.
And he takes pressure off of Bowe.

With no one to protect Bowe...
Who in the hell will catch passes for this team?

Jamaal Charles?

Plus if somehow Croyle stays healthy. TG could be his best friend. I'd rather see TG traded AFTER this season, unless the offer is uncommonly too good to pass up.

Micjones 10-10-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5102445)
Plus if somehow Croyle stays healthy. TG could be his best friend. I'd rather see TG traded AFTER this season, unless the offer is uncommonly too good to pass up.

I'd rather Bowe be Croyle's best friend since I know Tony's on short time, but he's no less valuable.

Frankie 10-10-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5101820)
I want Tony to be here when we turn it around. I think he could be a high caliber TE for another 4-5 yrs.

That would not surprise me. The way I've heard he takes care of himself, he could be the Brett Favre of TEs.

Frankie 10-10-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5101857)
If you trade Gonzo....you might as well eat the cap hit and trade LJ right now as well.

I say trade LJ's ass if there's a reasonable offer out there for him anyway. We should take the cap hit now that we can.

PastorMikH 10-10-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5102057)
I wonder how Clark Hunt would feel about Tony being moved off this roster?

If that expedites the firing of Peterson/Edwards and their merry band of idiots I'd take it.



If Clark isn't in the loop enough to know that Tony is on the block, he's too out of the loop to care what Carl even does.



Part of me is wondering if Tony's speaking out behind closed doors questioning Herm. Didn't take Trent long to get out of town once he started voicing his opinion on the state of the offense.


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