How do ppl know if Carl or Herm are going to lose their job?

It's all wishful thinking. Look at this organization? People who have followed them closely and known them for years how they operate. They hardly make changes.

The Chiefs rarely fire ppl. Vermeil resigned. Schottemheimer the same. They were horrible in the 80's and still kept Steadman in the FO. Coincedence Carl is still here? Wouldn't surprise me if Herm is next year as well.

JINX!!!!!

Counting his money

You're right, now that I think about it, we may have netted 2 full yards running the sloption. That was after we signed our sloption quarterback around the first of September (a 2-year contract), promoted him off the PS for one game (three plays, to be precise), and waived him about 10 days later.

Are you defending this stupidity? Really?

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My guess is that a 4th-round pick would have been plenty for Herm.

To top it off, they got beat reporters writing articles saying have firing coaches or managers doesn't help solve problems.

No. Not with the way the NFL is run in contrast with the way it was run during those years. It would be almost impossible now.

But, relatively speaking, I think we're looking at 2-3 (not including this season) more years before this team is even competitive.

You get way too worked up I've noticed.

You know, Steadman and company may have been awful at choosing head coaches but they were pretty damn good at loading the roster with a shit ton of talent.

When Marty took over, Okoye, Palmer, Alt, Maas, Dino Hackett, Deron Cherry, Lloyd Burrus, Albert Lewis, Mike Bell, Stephone Paige, Jonathon Hayes, Neil Smith, Steve DeBerg, Rich Baldinger, Carlos Carson, Nick Lowery, Kevin Porter, JC Pearson, Kevin Ross and Alfredo Roberts were all on the roster.

Compare that to the Chiefs of 2006. Or 2007. Or 2008.

Because people around here would rather talk out of their ass, and base everything they say on hate, than be rational about the situation.

I can't wait for Clark to clean house either, but that doesn't mean I'm going to manipulate or ignore facts to try to make shallow points about why they should be fired.

Objective posters are a dying breed around here...

And BTW, I'm not calling you out. Talking in generalities.



EDIT: Here's an example. The Nap Harris was cut thread.

Almost every comment is something to the effect of "well, that was a waste of $12M"

We all knew that LAST year.

And the funny thing? Is it not a waste of $12M had he been KEPT on the roster?

2 to 3 years is probably a pretty good estimate, Mr. bobbything. I suppose it all depends on how well and how quickly our drafts work out. Based on Herm's first draft (2006), it's not looking all that fantastic, to be honest. The best we can hope for from that class is that Pollard and Page will get better (and Hali, I guess). Croyle looks like he's just not able to withstand the punishment that comes during a complete season.

The 2007 draft looks a lot better, by comparison. Tank, Turk, Bowe, Kolby, Taylor, etc. I just don't know how well those guys would fair on other teams.

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I have a question? Has Herm ever had Gatorade spilled on him? Other than self-inflicted spastic spillage?

I would like to see video proof of this EVER happening....

Well it goes to show..In the NFL, The guys in charge upstairs have to be capable of doing both bringing in the right players, and the right set of coaches as well.

The job of a GM is not easy.

To be fair... there was only 1 post that said that. It was by a first time poster who just signed on this month.

The rest of them were making fun of the signing... basically agreeing with your opinion that Nap Harris was a horrible FA pick-up.

Stuff along these lines.

The Kansas City Chiefs are a dumpster fire. I stole that phrase from Colin Cowherd.

Here's the thing. A lot of us think there is a specific timeline as to when a team should improve and be a contender. That thinking always can get you into trouble.

The main focus should always be on the progression of your team. It could take 5 years to build a football team or maybe 3? truth is, we don't know. But what we do know is there is no progression going on here. I like the youth movement but all of us know the coaching stinks and I have a feeling that stunts the development and growth of some of our younger players.