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doomy3 02-10-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477318)
Ironically, we didn't have anyone talented taking snaps behind that line under center.

Better than bad does not equal good.
well, Trent Green was pretty good, but when he had to start playing behind a weak line, he also turned to shit.

Basileus777 02-10-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477326)
Can a QB get improve after playing 8 games?

Anyone. Any single person is welcome to say yes or no.
Why do you keep coming back to this? It's not a question of can, it's a question of whether or not we should expect enough improvement to pass on Stafford/Sanchez. And the answer to that in my opinion is a clear no.

|Zach| 02-10-2009 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5477329)
maybe
I am sure you will be able to tell me after everything happens though Deberg. I look forward to that.

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477311)
They are not alike...Leinart looked more impressive out of college.
Not physically.

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477335)
Not physically.
Tell that to the sorority sisters.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 5477312)
What I don't get is almost everyone on this board knew and expected to be pretty bad this last year, and then use the very thing they thought would happen and then flip it with high standards and then complain why someone isn't producing at a high level in his first gig on the fly.
I knew that the Chiefs would be lucky to win more than three games in 2008 and said as much last April. While Thigpen's play greatly improved once the spread was implemented, his completion percentage in each game decreased dramatically as each game wore on.

In other words, he got worse, not better. He's not an accurate passer and doesn't particularly have a strong arm. If I were the new GM or coach, there's no way I'd pass on a possible franchise QB in Stafford or Sanchez because Thigpen was already on the roster.

I'm not advocating that the Chiefs cut him altogether. He may improve and learn how to quickly read defenses behind center but, I wouldn't take that bet.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477313)
potential=we dont know. draft a guy or thigpen it's the exact same- we dont know
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477320)
Untrue.

Stafford and Sanchez are bigger, taller and stronger than Thigpen. They've also been playing in a Pro-Style offense for at least three years (if not four).

Thigpen's been in the spread for the past three years because he can't read defenses.
no matter what you say dane we still dont know about them, both could EASILY BUST.

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5477332)
well, Trent Green was pretty good, but when he had to start playing behind a weak line, he also turned to shit.
So what does THAT tell you, Doomy?

|Zach| 02-10-2009 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5477333)
Why do you keep coming back to this? It's not a question of can, it's a question of whether or not we should expect enough improvement to pass on Stafford/Sanchez. And the answer to that in my opinion is a clear no.
Because, contrary to your post people ARE saying he can't improve. Me? Not impressed with this years QB class. I would at least have some hope for Stafford but Sanchez is more overhyped USC bust action just waiting in the wings.

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:14 PM
Did I just read that Thigpen is accurate, that must be a pretty low standard.

doomy3 02-10-2009 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5477343)
So what does THAT tell you, Doomy?
that the line is equally as important, if not more important than the QB?

DaneMcCloud 02-10-2009 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477342)
no matter what you say dane we still dont know about them, both could EASILY BUST.
No Mr. Sauto, they won't.

There's no way in the world that Sanchez or Stafford become Akili Smith or Cade McNown.

No. Way.

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 5477344)
Because, contrary to your post people ARE saying he can't improve. Me? Not impressed with this years QB class. I would at least have some hope for Stafford but Sanchez is more overhyped USC bust action just waiting in the wings.
He'll be shitty just like Carson Palmer.

Basileus777 02-10-2009 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5477342)
no matter what you say dane we still dont know about them, both could EASILY BUST.
Maybe, but they could also turn out to be franchise signal-callers, something Thigpen realistically can't. It's a risk you have to take.

Deberg_1990 02-10-2009 06:15 PM
Ill roll with whatever decision Pioli makes.


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