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Ultra Peanut 02-21-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon (Post 5510147)
However, why don't scouts rate intangibles and intelligence as premier qualities?

Because the biggest intangible -- can this guy handle being an NFL quarterback? -- is absolutely impossible to measure, no matter how many times you interview someone or watch him play.

Danman 02-21-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5512555)
I can only speculate, but I'm betting that even if Stafford is sitting there with Sanchez, and Pioli pulls the trigger on a QB, he will take Sanchez.

Stafford is more physically gifted, by only by a small margin, but Sanchez brings more in terms of intangibles.

I can live with that. I like Sanchez better too. I'd be happy with Stafford though. Either way and I'd feel we got good value for the #3 pick.

Coogs 02-21-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 5512602)
I can live with that. I like Sanchez better too. I'd be happy with Stafford though. Either way and I'd feel we got good value for the #3 pick.

I really hope we have the option to pick either one of these guys. Right now, the Saturday morning of the combine, I prefer Stafford slightly to Sanchez. But either one is fine by me.

milkman 02-21-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5512589)
Because the biggest intangible -- can this guy handle being an NFL quarterback? -- is absolutely impossible to measure, no matter how many times you interview someone or watch him play.

While that's true, one can get a sense of an individual's mental toughness from watching him play, interacting with teammates, how he handles pressure in the pocket, and how he handles himself under scrutiny from the media, as well as how he interviews.

The level of comfort and confidence that Sanchez displays in these situations gives one a feeling that he is more mature and better equipped emotionally to make the transition.

Dave Lane 02-21-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5510080)
I have the sneakiest feeling he's going to work his way into being seriously considered at #3 overall...but a big piece of the Pioli/Haley ideal seems to be toughness and team-oriented.

What little I've seen him in interview scenarios, he's seems confident, but sometimes to the point of arrogant...they say the biggest part of the combine is actually the interview processes and tests - that may be where he seals his deal with us or not.

You want a QB to have that much confidence. Everyone I have ever seen that succeeded greatly had extremely high confidence.

Ultra Peanut 02-21-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5512658)
While that's true, one can get a sense of an individual's mental toughness from watching him play, interacting with teammates, how he handles pressure in the pocket, and how he handles himself under scrutiny from the media, as well as how he interviews.

The level of comfort and confidence that Sanchez displays in these situations gives one a feeling that he is more mature and better equipped emotionally to make the transition.

I agree about Sanchez, but then, I was also enamored with Joey Harrington's intangibles.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a reason why they're called that.

milkman 02-21-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5513003)
I agree about Sanchez, but then, I was also enamored with Joey Harrington's intangibles.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a reason why they're called that.

My memory is hazy, but I think that Harrington played in a spread, and as we've seen, those guys don't transition all that well to the NFL.

I also liked Harrington's intangibles, but he's a guy that should have sat and learned and worked on his mechanics for a couple of years before he was thrown out there.

I also thought that he was a system specific QB, and the Lions offense was a bad fit.

The one thing I didn't really see in Harrington was maturity

I think all these things worked to stunt his development, and he has never recovered.

melbar 02-21-2009 02:15 PM

I think the big thing with both these guys is how will they be handled by the staff. Guys like Harrington may have had more success with a better team and better coaching. Harringtons confidence was destroyed by year 3. How the coaches bring them along will be immense. Every guy will react differently and need different things from their coaches in transitioning to the NFL. Archie Manning got his a-- kicked repeatidly and kept coming. If we dont pass block well we better have more 3 step drops and quick passes to help out. If they arent ready we cant push em either.

melbar 02-21-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5513028)
My memory is hazy, but I think that Harrington played in a spread, and as we've seen, those guys don't transition all that well to the NFL.

I also liked Harrington's intangibles, but he's a guy that should have sat and learned and worked on his mechanics for a couple of years before he was thrown out there.

I also thought that he was a system specific QB, and the Lions offense was a bad fit.

The one thing I didn't really see in Harrington was maturity

I think all these things worked to stunt his development, and he has never recovered.

Yes...said much better than my rambling...

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5512559)
I would, as well.

I'd wager the gist of today's interview, on the non-playing side, was something to this effect:

"We're looking for a guy who can not only learn the job at the professional level and take direction well, but someone who can be a leader quickly and is prepared to call Kansas City home for a long time to come".

"Can you do this"?

:shrug:

Chiefnj2 02-21-2009 04:04 PM

youtube highlights have Harrington working under center and not in a spread.

Mecca 02-21-2009 04:08 PM

Joey Harrington was one of the long line of Jeff Tedford QB's who had an issue going to the next level.

Pioli Zombie 02-21-2009 06:06 PM

Did sanchez throw to any linebackers? That would show if he's another drew bledsoe.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 5513847)
Did sanchez throw to any linebackers? That would show if he's another drew bledsoe.
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milkman 02-21-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5513472)
Joey Harrington was one of the long line of Jeff Tedford QB's who had an issue going to the next level.

Oh yeah.

That's it.

I knew there was something about his college game that usually means there should be a red flag, but I couldn't remember.


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