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"Experts" say and think the same as Mecca... (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202998)

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5522373)

Sorry I won't be educated by someone who thought Herm was a great coach and rode his cock right up until the end of the Bengals game.

Ouch! that is going to sting a little....

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5522373)

Sorry I won't be educated by someone who thought Herm was a great coach and rode his cock right up until the end of the Bengals game.

Why am I (thankfully) not remembering this?

Sensible was a Herm supporter? If so, it's amazing that the mods haven't had a bit of fun with his username.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5522062)

You forgot to add that Sanchez has been letting the better prospects dictate his choices. Bradford announced his press conference that he is returning to school and then after Sanchez immediately hold his to say he will enter the draft.

Are you shitting me? Of COURSE you're going to declare if it comes down to you and one other legitimate prospect.

And as far as Bradford goes, to call him "better" than Mark is just ****ing laughable.
There is NO QB in the 12 South that is worth a flying **** as an NFL prospect.

Sorry, but them's the breaks!

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5522373)

Sorry I won't be educated by someone who thought Herm was a great coach and rode his cock right up until the end of the Bengals game.

Not surprising, but your reading comprehension was a bit off there. I never said that Herm was a 'great' coach. Not surprised that you don't pick up the nuances of an argument.

Don't argue with Mecca about Sanchez he knows everything so much so he declined on being a scout so he could share his knowledge on Chiefsplanet. He's also said USC has no talent.

We need so much its hard to not look at all the top picks ...

Two things on this.

First up is this:

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SportingNews.com’s Russ Lande said:

[...] Teams were impressed that Sanchez decided to throw and did not look nervous or anxious.

ESPN’s John Clayton:

A ball of nervous energy, USC QB Mark Sanchez had a good throwing performance Sunday at the combine.

How can he not look nervous or anxious to one person, yet be described as "a ball of nervous energy" to someone else? That doesn't mesh, and someone has to be off base on their analysis, don't they?

My second point:

Can anyone name me another college QB with just 16 starts (or even fewer) who was drafted in the top 5? And if so, how did they do in the NFL?

Honestly -- I'm not saying Sanchez isn't worth the pick, and realize there have been successful QBs who weren't four-year starters. Just wondering if anyone with such little experience was ever drafted that high, and if someone like Mecca (or another draftnik) has already done the research on this.

Thanks in advance for anyone who can answer that one.

MM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5522531)

Not surprising, but your reading comprehension was a bit off there. I never said that Herm was a 'great' coach. Not surprised that you don't pick up the nuances of an argument.

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Not if Herm sticks around. Chiefs will be in the playoffs next year.

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The more a person knows about football and the the NFL, the less they call for firing Herm Edwards.

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Herm was the perfect coach to rebuild this team.

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That is a GREAT point. Here is the thing. Herm Edwards is actually doing things the RIGHT way.

He is building a team to be great over a long period of time. He is building with youth. It is a little harder, and more patience is required, but once it is done.... you have the ability to compete for a championship for several years, not one or two.

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Let me recap. Hunt is firmly behind Herm Edwards, and he has already said it will be 'his' decision. The GM will have 'input'.

To say there is no chance of Herm coming back is wishful thinking not based in reality.

I don't even have a problem with Herm coming back. The reality is that the biggest factor in a head coach is not x's and o's. It is motivation and team building. Herm has done a very good job of that.

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I value a person with a vision and the patience to execute it. He has not lost the team. The team still believes, and the team is going in the right direction.

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I think you underestimate how much people who know Edwards like and believe in him.

Had to throw this Dick Curl jewel in here also

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I know that many would like to bash anything Herm Edwards related, but why are we bashing Dick Curl?

I have always said that fans really don't have enough intimate knowlege of the team to be for or against any position coach. The reality is that coaching a position happens during the week, not so much on Sundays. We can't honestly asses the coaching if we don't ever even see it.

Head coaches and coordinators are much more visible, but position coaches? Give me a break.

Now, the one thing that we can do is look at the players they have developed.

Who here can look at how far Thigpen has come and STILL bash Dick Curl? Seriously.

Even Brodie Croyle was playing well under Dick Curl's coaching when he was healthy.

Tyler Thigpen was a sixth round pick that was on the waiver wire and Dick Curl has coached him into a poor man's Rich Gannon. Moreover, Thigpen has improved as the season has progressed.

I am not saying that Dick Curl is a 'great' coach. Although, he has been a head coach and won championships in the world league, I believe. (on any level, that is an accomplishment)

All I am saying is that I don't understand how he can be criticized when Tyler Thigpen has been the biggest surprise and bright spot on this season.

I have heard many talk about how great Terry Shea was. The funny thing is that until he got to KC, he had a less impressive resume than Dick Curl. And, even after he got here, his claim to fame is coaching an already developed QB in Trent Green. Seriously. Trent Green was a starter in the NFL before he got to KC and was one of the highest rated passers in the year before he got to KC. So, how much credit does Shea actually get for that?

Mike Martz had worked with Trent Green for five years, I believe before he got to KC. Mike Martz was the QB coach in Washington and was hired to be the OC in ST. Louis and insisted that they bring Trent Green in. Al Saunders had been with Trent Green for two years prior to them both coming to KC.

Anyways, the next time you go to bash Dick Curl.... just look at Thigpen.

Because I don't see how anyone can look at how well Thigpen, a sixth round pick from Coastal Carolina, is playing and still think Dick Curl is cluless.

This isn't to say he is a great coach, but the evidence is starting to look favorable that he is certainly isn't a 'horrible' one.

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Originally Posted by Mark M (Post 5522657)

My second point:

Can anyone name me another college QB with just 16 starts (or even fewer) who was drafted in the top 5? And if so, how did they do in the NFL?

Honestly -- I'm not saying Sanchez isn't worth the pick, and realize there have been successful QBs who weren't four-year starters. Just wondering if anyone with such little experience was ever drafted that high, and if someone like Mecca (or another draftnik) has already done the research on this.

Thanks in advance for anyone who can answer that one.

MM
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Akili Smith.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5523218)

Akili Smith.

Who played in a spread offense and was dumber than a box of hammers.

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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5523242)

Who played in a spread offense and was dumber than a box of hammers.

:LOL:

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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5523242)

Who played in a spread offense and was dumber than a box of hammers.

Is this the only example? Are there others?

How the **** are people freaking out about what appears to be an unbelievably small sample size?

"Experts" say and think the same as Mecca...

Well, they better by golly!!

You know what happens if they don't.......

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Originally Posted by smittysbar (Post 5523114)

Had to throw this Dick Curl jewel in here also

Dude, great finds. It goes without saying that he was a Herm homer, and to deny it now makes him look weak as hell.

Me personally, I want Stafford. He's clearly the better pick, and I hope he falls into our lap. If he's not there, I don't know what the hell to think.

I dont believe we will be taking Sanchez at 3 no matter what. I trust Pioli knows what he's doing. After all he helped build 3 super bowl winning teams this decade.

Whoever it is they pick, i hope they nail it.