I'd be ok with Waters leaving if we had a solid OL. But, with keeping Waters, we still could stand 3 new starters on the OL.

When you're building a new team, one that does have young guys on it and you're bringing in a guy like Vrabel it's probably best to not have anyone pissing on management still on the team.

I wouldn't exactly call TG a "spoiled baby." He is a true professional. Can't believe you are putting him in a category that includes LJ. :shake:

Well he has been whining...if you don't remember he basically said if Herm wasn't back and Thigpen wasn't the starter he didn't wanna play here.

Once again, Mr. FAX, your wisdom is way above my mental paycheck. I am well versed in the Biblical account that you have referred to, but I fail to make the connection. For my self esteem please chalk this up to the lateness of the hour and my brain being in the full stand down mode.

We are paying Albert LT money.

Or better yet, management quits coddling players like ours have grown accustomed to over the last 8 years. Instead, they raise the standards to let players know they won't tolerate such things. If players continue, step up and put a stop to the trouble stirring. If needed, you make an example out of the vet players that want to gripe.


Waters has been upset for less than a week - for something he was probably out of line for trying to do anyway. If he's still griping come summer, that's different. But for now, give it some time and see if he gets over it when team meetings and OTAs begin.

Monroe was LT to Albert's LG in college. Was their left side awesome? I'm not being a wise ass, I just don't remember a lot of media hoopla about their O-line.

How much is the difference between LT money and guard money?

LJ is the most replaceable. + TG is a team leader. LJ is a team distractor.

That Waters take might be fine if he hadn't run to Whitlock with this to try to make management look bad.

You're comparing the most important OL position and 2nd or 3rd most on the team to one of the least...so the answer is a ton.

Why is it that so many Chiefs fans seem to think that Albert isn't going to cut it at LT when he actually had a decent rookie season in that position?

The OL obsession around here is out of hand, this team does not need to use another 1st round pick an an offensive lineman.

I would jump on that deal (see bolded). But I don't the Bills will.