He absolutely has those skills. But he didn't have that expectation on him when he was drafted, or even when he signed with the Saints.

Were talking about expectation as well as skill.

Is Cassel in your top ten or not?

Curiously, does anyone have any numbers on how many starting QBs right now aren't being paid like a franchise QB, a handful? I mean the Panthers gave Delhomme reeruned money ffs.

Cassel didn't have that expectation on him when he was traded to the Chiefs. He didn't have that expectation on him when he signed his contract with the Chiefs. How is it any different?

I don't recall anyone saying he was considered a franchise QB the year he signed there.

Furthermore, if you needed one QB to win you a game, would you pick him?

I wouldn't.

Are you ****ing kidding?

Not until he shows he can perform at a high level without Moss/Welker/Belichick.

No. Just because you have pinned that on him because you were pissed off about the Sanchez situation, you think everyone else should buy into that nonsense. I can't recall a single analyst who was putting Cassel in the same class as Brady and Manning.

If I needed to win one game, I'd pick Tom Brady. If I couldn't have him, I'd hope to God he wasn't on the other team, and I'd look to Warner or Roethlisberger.

So it's nonsense to think that Matt Cassel can be a franchise QB.

Got it.

That's only the exact opposite of what the majority has been saying since the day we traded for him.

I do love how you try to twist things around. Here, let's start simple....

List all the franchise QBs.

Hmmmm. You and I must have differing opinions on franchise QBs.
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True franchise QB's: Brady, Manning's, Roethlisberger.

Guys that were drafted to be a FQB who will eventually or could win a SB: Rivers, Cutler, Ryan, Rodgers, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez.

Guys that are solid QB's, but I don't think are capable of leading a team to a championship: Brees, Romo, McNabb.

Guys that could be solid but I don't think are capable: Cassel, Quinn, Schaub.

The rest are either to old to be considered, are no good, or are excaping my memory at the moment.

So your assertion is that people were claiming that Cassel was going to develop into Brady or Manning, or at least Roethlisberger?

If that's the case, can you find me 10 posts or so by different people to verify that? I sure don't recall any such thing occurring on any large scale.

I'm on my phone, so that isn't possible at the moment.

However, I will tell you that there was a thread with a poll discussing it after the trade. Matter of fact, I think I started it and the question was "is Cassel capable of putting a team on his back and winning a championship" referencing the idea of a franchise QB.