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BigMeatballDave 09-28-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6122033)

A 27 year old player is a win now player I expect him to play like it.

I agree, but asking him to perform at a high level behind this line is a bit much to ask. Again, failure of management to obtain higher quality on the OL.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6121999)
He's one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks I've ever seen.

The dude has Elway like mobility and arm strength with the size of Peyton Manning.

He's a ****ing prototype's prototype.

It's ****ing shocking to be able to see a kid that big be able to tuck it and run the way he does.

Right now, he's at least a mid first rounder, IMO. And when people start taking a tape and clock to the kid at the combine, I have a hard time envisioning him falling out of the top 10.

Absolute freak.

stevieray 09-28-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6122021)
It's hilarious to me, like being a stupid ass blind homer with no real opinion makes someone a great fan. A drooling reerun could do that.

"Matt Cassel is 27, 27 years old...Cassel is 27years old ,27 years old....27 ..I'm a really good driver..."

tyler360 09-28-2009 10:51 PM

I wanted Mark Sanchez as much as anybody but Matt Cassel is our qb now and giving up on him after three games, like some people are doing, is jumping the gun a little bit.

Mecca 09-28-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6122042)
I agree, but asking him to perform at a high level behind this line is a bit much to ask. Again, failure of management to obtain higher quality on the OL.

See here's what gets me, if you're critical of Cassel you're met with something like this right?

Well I've been critical of Pioli just the same and that is met with the same type of stuff.

It's obviously someone's fault.

I don't like the move for Cassel but it's compounded because of either stupidity or arrogance whichever that Pioli had that oh those lineman are fine that past regime just didn't know how to coach em up.

Mecca 09-28-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6122045)
"Matt Cassel is 27, 27 years old...Cassel is 27years old ,27 years old....27 ..I'm a really good driver..."

You might add something if you'd give a take that wasn't "The Chiefs are the best they need time"

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-28-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 6122045)
"Matt Cassel is 27, 27 years old...Cassel is 27years old ,27 years old....27 ..I'm a really good driver..."

Lacks poise in the pocket
Doesn't operate well under center
Has poor accuracy beyond short range
Hasn't performed without absolutely elite talent around him
Takes too many sacks


But yeah, basically just "27, 27, 27".

Mecca 09-28-2009 10:55 PM

If you figure that Cassel didn't start from high school till he was 26, and that time frame, he'll be a franchise QB when he's 43 years old.

stevieray 09-28-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6122050)
You might add something if you'd give a take that wasn't "The Chiefs are the best they need time"

Chiefs are the best?


..please .provide proof that I've said that...ever.

Mecca 09-28-2009 10:57 PM

If you want unicorns and rainbows you can go post on the coalition they're all about that.

And like Hamas said we have discussed a multitude of things with Matt Cassel, so to say it's just his age is hyperbole at best.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6122046)
I wanted Mark Sanchez as much as anybody but Matt Cassel is our qb now and giving up on him after three games, like some people are doing, is jumping the gun a little bit.

Welcome to the board, n00b.

No one is giving up on Cassel after three games. Many of us did this when the trade was finalized, so, no worries.

wild1 09-28-2009 10:59 PM

Sanchez will be good.

The Jets are not so bereft of talent, however.

BigMeatballDave 09-28-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6122044)
It's ****ing shocking to be able to see a kid that big be able to tuck it and run the way he does.

Right now, he's at least a mid first rounder, IMO. And when people start taking a tape and clock to the kid at the combine, I have hard time envisioning him falling out of the top 10.

Absolute freak.

Terrelle Pryor is a freak at running the ball. He's 6'6". He's really bad about locking onto his recievers though.

Mecca 09-28-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6122046)
I wanted Mark Sanchez as much as anybody but Matt Cassel is our qb now and giving up on him after three games, like some people are doing, is jumping the gun a little bit.

Now no one who posts here really wants him to fail. Saying you think we made the wrong move or you think he'll fail and wanting him to fail aren't the same.

Honest question, maybe it's just me, but the trade for Cassel just spoke to me as typical Chiefs move. Have a chance to draft a guy and you go with the trade, it's moves like that, that I've been dealing with my entire life with this franchise.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6122065)
Terrelle Pryor is a freak at running the ball. He's 6'6". He's really bad about locking onto his recievers though.

And he throws like Carl Lewis.

****ing shit, man. We're talking about Gabbert FFS!!!


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