*buzzer*

Wrong.

I said:

And then YOU said:



So, I'll ask AGAIN:

When has ANY team/GM/Pioli/Jesus used a draft pick in the 2nd round or higher to draft, or trade for a QB, start him for 2 years, and then cut him due to performance.

There's nothing in Pioli's history to suggest that, there's nothing in the Patriots history to suggest that, there's nothing in the modern history of the NFL to suggest that.

Youre right i do THINK they will, thats why the contract was set up the way it is.

AGAIN: who has taken a 5 tech at #3? pioli has shown that he isnt concerned with precedent. he will set the precedent if needed. thats a fact.
Now do i KNOW what will happen? NO BUT if you look at the situation with an OPEN mind it's pretty clear that he left himself an out.


You are a funny guy and one day you might realize that just because YOU think it doesnt mean it's right.

It has happened before, but usually as some final gasp of desperation by a dying regime or something like that. The Dolphins and AJ Feeley come to mind. It's not perfectly analogous to the stated criteria, but Feeley wasn't in their plans just one year later, let alone two. He got pulled as a starter the same season they traded for him. WANNSTACHE~!

Sauto does have a point, though, about Cassel's contract. If you don't think they would cut him after two years, then you have to chalk up the specifics of his deal (equivalent* to 2 years of franchising [or 1 year franchised + 1 year RFA with no CBA]) as being some kind of happenstance.

I have trouble believing they'd cut bait on him so quick, but I also have trouble believing those numbers are just a coincidence.

(*it's actually a little cheaper)

You keep saying this, but don't bother to explain what you mean by it.

Please, enlighten us.

How did Pioli structure the contract to "leave himself an out?"

AJ Feely with Miami.... now would you shut the **** up about it.

No, he really doesn't.

Because "if you don't think they would cut him after two years" as I don't - you're failing to recognize that he'll get the rest of the $63M.

He's only guaranteed $28M.

He's going to get paid much, much more than that.

People are trying to justify his contract by saying we'd only be out $28M, when that's far from the case.

Hell, for sake of conversation, say we did cut his ass after the 2010 season.

He'll earn the entire $28M, plus his base salary for 2009 and 2010, plus any roster bonuses that may have been part of the deal.

AJ Feely was drafted in the 5th round...

Did they sign Feeley to a 6 year deal worth $63M and then let him walk?

No?

Then **** off.

It was said at the time that the contract was front loaded. And by guaranteeing him 28 million when he would have gotten 28 million for two years tells the story

LMAO how do guarantees work? thats the signing bonus and the yearly salary that he's guaranteed no matter what right? so some if not all of that 28 million will be paid in the first three years if you believe what was speculated at the time of the signing.


Again you should try to be objective here.

nice of you to move the goal posts.
You never said a thing about a contract in your question

Is the EXACT situation to Cassel? no. But you asked for an example.... Feely was traded for a 2nd... dropped two years later after not playing well.

So, you got your answer you little cry baby.


now eat a bag of dicks. Okay, CAPTAIN CAPS.

Tells what story?

You still have to pay the man his base salary for 2009 and 2010, plus any bonuses/incentives you worked into the contract.

And FWIW, the contract WAS front-loaded, where Cassel earns something like $41M over the first 3 years - essentially guaranteeing he'll be here for AT LEAST those 3 years.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/7...ssels-contract

Jesus Christ, Jason, you think the money has nothing to do with the discussion?

The whole goddamn conversation revolves around his contract.

JESUS CHRIST otwp you asked what qb was traded for or drafted with a 1 or 2, he gave you one and then you said contract, thats moving the posts