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Bunit 10-27-2009 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 6211133)
Yeah DUMBSHIT there is a whole bunch of people defending him, read and see..

DUMBSHIT in capitals, Thanks B!tch.

MadMax 10-27-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunit (Post 6211152)
DUMBSHIT in capitals, Thanks B!tch.



Nah, sorry bout the dumbshit, no need for me to get personal... :) lol just my way of talking sometimes

Bunit 10-27-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 6211155)
Nah, sorry bout the dumbshit, no need for me to get personal... :) lol just my way of talking sometimes

Cool. I get that people are making escuses for him too.

I'm not sold on Cassel yet and we could have damned well jumped the gun on ol' boy.

But I don't get that some seem to throw all the blame on him when what we got protecting him is pure shit and he has weapons that constantly drop the ball and can't get seperation.

BigMeatballDave 10-27-2009 03:04 AM

Can we change the name of this thread to "Mecca is butthurt over not drafting Sanchez"

I wanted Sanchez, too. Cassell is our QB. Deal with it. Bashing him now is pointless until this team can acquire/develop talent. Be pissed at Pioli, he traded for him.

Greens 1st season here was awful too until we got a some pieces in place.

chiefzilla1501 10-27-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6211150)
Was this before or after they brought in Vinny Testaverde because they were so certain of his play last year?

Entirely different circumstances. Testaverde was brought in because they weren't sure if Cassel would be healthy enough to last the season and they needed a veteran who could immediately step in and take reps. Cassel was kept on the roster because they believed in his upside.

The_Doctor10 10-27-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210427)
If Kyle Orton is our standard, this trade is a loser.

Maybe... But Kyle Orton's 6-0 and has a horseshoe up his ass. He seems to win regardless of how little talent we all think he has.

luv 10-27-2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunit (Post 6210782)
Aint nobody is defending him.

English please?

Pioli Zombie 10-27-2009 06:56 AM

Did the geniuses who all predicted the Chiefs would start out 1-6 ( most said win vs Oakland, loss to everyone) think they would look good going 1-6? People need to relax and look at history. Rebuilding teams usually look worse at first. Parcells first year in NE they started 1-11, included was a nationally televised 45-0 loss to the Jets. I guess they should have fired Parcells. Joe Gibbs Redskins started 0-5 in 1981. Point is, you need to let the year play out. The thing is, Mecca and his boys will rag on them if they went 14-2 because he has to be proven right. Until the Lombardi Trophy is hoisted they will do nothing but bitch about everything because that's what they do. That's their thing. Too bad. Because it ruins the enjoyment
That '93 Patriots won its final 4 games to go 5-11 and it was one of most enjoyable times as a fan I ever had.
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NY CHIEF 10-27-2009 07:14 AM

Its amazing our qbs are still alive with this ol :doh!:

milkman 10-28-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6210510)
For me I was never a Cassel fan and I thought he was a 1 year wonder. But he is a Chief now and I don't want him to fail plus I am going to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt. Most people thought this team was not very good I predicted 4-5 wins and that maybe high now.

I want to see a full offseason with Pioli and everyone in place to see what kind of team he builds. If next year we still suck at 1-6 then the honeymoon will be over at least for me anyway. For others it is already over.

I have very little faith in Pioli at this point.

The fact that he went against the value of the '09 draft and forced an immediate switch to the 34 when a more effective play would have been to place a higher priority on the OL and make the switch with the next draft, a deep defensive draft makes me question his plan.

The fact that the only players he's signing are almost all players that he or Haley have a history with makes me question his talent evaluation.

He better have one hell of an offseason to make me think he's anything more that the Hoodie's glorified ball washer.

milkman 10-28-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6210552)
Regret getting rid of thigpen now???

Why would we?

We'd just have a short Cassel clone.

Chiefnj2 10-28-2009 08:27 AM

The moves made by Pioli, and those not made are real head scratchers.

Defense alone:
- Hiring Clancy to run a 34.
- Not addressing a pass rusher
- Not addressing NT
- Drafting Tyson Jackson at 3 and then using him as a 2 down lineman all year. A top 5 pick on a 2 down player? Yikes.
- Drafting Magee in the 3rd.
- Not being more active in free agency with the front 7.

milkman 10-28-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6210592)
Cassel is a better qb, but thigpen can "make shicken salad out of chicken shit" better

No he can't.

Chan Gailey made chicken salad out chicken shit by going to the spraed, much the same as Josh Mcdaniel did in New England with Matt Cassel.

Neither Thigpen or Cassel have shown any talent to play out of a pro set, and Thigpen would be every bit as bad now playing in this offense as he was playing against Atlanta this year.

He was absolutely horrible in the preseason when Cassel was hurt trying to play in this offense.

He actually made us long for Cassel to return.

milkman 10-28-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6210652)
How many QB's have had good careers take off later in their careers?

Gannon, Steve Young, Trent Green, Matt Hasselback......

Life does not end at 27.

How many years did Ganno, Steve Young, Trent Green give to their respective teams as staters.

5-6 years?

Young, 7-8 years?

The problem with QBs whose career takes off later in thier careers is that they give you a short window before you have to go out and replace them.

Teams that consistently stay at or near the top of the heap have more stability at QB.

To get that kind of long term stability you have to either find it in the draft or find guys like Brett Favre or Matt Hasselback, guys with only one or two years in the league as backups.

Guys like Matt Cassel are better options for teams further along.

Building a team around a 27 year old career backup is a bad plan.

By the time this team is ready to compete, he'll be 30 and might allow this team to compete for 5-6 years, assuming that he is what Pioli thinks he is, and he doesn't have his confidenc destroyed or his body broken by then.

Bunit 10-28-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6211272)
English please?

Sorry Luv. How bout' aint nobody defending him. Better? :D


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