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DaneMcCloud 01-04-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6407108)
Admittedly, you saw the light.

Excuse me?

I NEVER once stated that he didn't have talent or that he wasn't effective. He was effective under Herm and had a great day against Tampa before injuring his hamstring (again).

He just hadn't proven he was capable of being an every down, NFL back until the past few weeks.

Which is the same exact issue that EVERYONE on the coaching staff had with him.

:shake:

T-post Tom 01-04-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407077)
I love how Claythan likes to post shit out of context.

He's a ****ing loser.

And for the record, are you going to dispute Charles' injuries in 2008?

He had severe hamstring injuries, which limited him to 67 carries last year.

:shake:

You guys act like I just pulled this out of a hat.

It really is okay to be wrong. Most of us are at some point or another regarding the Chiefs. I lost hope in Cassel at some point this year. Based on this year, I don't see him as a franchise qb for a playoff caliber team. I don't see him winning a playoff game with his arm. That said, I truly hope he proves me wrong next year. I do.

BossChief 01-04-2010 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407083)
Well, that and steroids.

Too much muscle on top can and does often lead to hamstring issues.

I doubt it, but he could be taking HGH, lots of NE players tested for it ...or it could be just a lot of hard work. To say he takes steroids is a little baseless, its not like the guy gained 15 pounds of muscle.

Also take into account the fact I have been preaching all year, and last on the other board.

He didnt lift weights in College as much as a football player normally does because of him being a track guy. It takes away from a sprinters flexibility. This is a HUGE reason for why a back with his talent slipped to the third round.

"too much muscle on top"? no

Last year he went down on first contact. This year he is bouncing off contact and turning them into long gains. Next year I fully expect him to start punishing defenders a little more toward the end of runs as PH used to do. I also expect him to become a very dangerous receiving threat next year after a full offseason of work with the staff on route running, remember Priest wasn't a great receiver till a couple years into his career because Texas backs dont have to do it.

If he is able to stay healthy, he will be one hell of a weapon for us.

DaneMcCloud 01-04-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 6407127)
It really is okay to be wrong. Most of us are at some point or another regarding the Chiefs. I lost hope in Cassel at some point this year. Based on this year, I don't see him as a franchise qb for a playoff caliber team. I don't see him winning a playoff game with his arm. That said, I truly hope he proves me wrong next year. I do.

I wasn't wrong.

I never stated that Charles didn't have the ability; I doubted his health because he was only able to carry the ball 67 times last year.

Again, the coaching staff had the very same doubts, which is why they tried to trade him and limited him to kickoff returns and third downs.

What I stated in mid-September was the general consensus.

Thankfully, he's proved otherwise since been given a chance.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407124)
Excuse me?

I NEVER once stated that he didn't have talent or that he wasn't effective.

But you never stated he did, either.

You disqualified his talent completely because he was "injury prone," which is an odd thing to say about a player who plays in all 16 games and goes through the offseason without undergoing surgery.

It was a classic case of "Dane sees something wrong so he's going to blow it out of proportion to slam the Chiefs."

Anyway, just my take.

DaneMcCloud 01-04-2010 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6407135)
I doubt it, but he could be taking HGH, lots of NE players tested for it ...or it could be just a lot of hard work. To say he takes steroids is a little baseless, its not like the guy gained 15 pounds of muscle.

Also take into account the fact I have been preaching all year, and last on the other board.

He didnt lift weights in College as much as a football player normally does because of him being a track guy. It takes away from a sprinters flexibility.

Last year he went down on first contact. This year he is bouncing off contact and turning them into long gains. Next year I fully expect him to start punishing defenders a little more toward the end of runs as PH used to do. I also expect him to become a very dangerous receiving threat next year after a full offseason of work with the staff on route running, remember Priest wasn't a great receiver till a couple years into his career.

If he is able to stay healthy, he will be one hell of a weapon for us.

The first sign of steroid use is hamstring injuries. I'm not claiming he did steroids but that is the first sign. It seems odd that a sprinter and hurdle guy like Charles would have so many issues his first season, but whatever.

Hopefully, he's past that.

As for HGH, I pretty much assume that most guys are doing it.

DaneMcCloud 01-04-2010 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6407148)
But you never stated he did, either.

You disqualified his talent completely because he was "injury prone," which is an odd thing to say about a player who plays in all 16 games and goes through the offseason without undergoing surgery.

It was a classic case of "Dane sees something wrong so he's going to blow it out of proportion to slam the Chiefs."

Anyway, just my take.

Bull ****ing shit.

Maybe I didn't state it in THIS thread but I certainly said it on several occasions.

What's your ****ing obsession with me, anyway?

You're creeping me out.

T-post Tom 01-04-2010 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407141)
I wasn't wrong.

I never stated that Charles didn't have the ability; I doubted his health because he was only able to carry the ball 67 times last year.

Again, the coaching staff had the very same doubts, which is why they tried to trade him and limited him to kickoff returns and third downs.

What I stated in mid-September was the general consensus.

Thankfully, he's proved otherwise since been given a chance.

Alrighty. Charles looks like he's going to be an effective weapon for the Chiefs, and we smashed the donks. Nice ending on a rough year for Chiefs' fans everywhere. All is good for now. In fact, I think I'll change my avy in honor of the Chiefs' bashing of the donks playoff hopes. Happy New Year and best wishes for everyone here.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2010 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407159)
Bull ****ing shit.

Maybe I didn't state it in THIS thread but I certainly said it on several occasions.

What's your ****ing obsession with me, anyway?

You're creeping me out.

I just happened to remember our debates about Charles this offseason. They were intense.

Seemed like a good time to bump your post. Especially because I've been a JC Believer since the beginning. I was wrong, too. I thought his ceiling this year was 1,000 TOTAL yards. He blew me away.

DaneMcCloud 01-04-2010 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6407175)
I just happened to remember our debates about Charles this offseason. They were intense.

Seemed like a good time to bump your post. Especially because I've been a JC Believer since the beginning. I was wrong, too. I thought his ceiling this year was 1,000 TOTAL yards. He blew me away.


JC? More like Derrick Johnson.

You're from Texas.

Hardly an objective bystander.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407180)
JC? More like Derrick Johnson.

You're from Texas.

Hardly an objective bystander.

I don't even watch the Longhorns.

And I think DJ sucks now. I, too, have seen the light.

cdcox 01-28-2010 07:50 PM

It's Dane time.

Pioli Zombie 01-28-2010 07:53 PM

Why are there THREE threads devoted to one one who sucks the penis?

Excuse me, I didn't scroll down far enough. Why are there SEVEN threads devoted to one one who sucks the penis?
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Over-Head 01-30-2010 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6407077)
I love how Claythan likes to post shit out of context.

He's a ****ing loser.

.

I'm a card carrying member of this fan club!! :thumb:





!!!DANE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!


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