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Mecca 01-01-2010 09:40 PM

I don't really think you should put an entire team of those types of guys together but a couple won't kill a team.

Amnorix 01-01-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6397629)
I'll always talk about how I think the influencing of other players thing is reeruned. The players are not children.

yeah, tell that to the '04 Red Sox (Nomar) and the '08 Red Sox (Manny). If you don't think a star can really do a number on a team's atmosphere, you're sadly mistaken.

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2010 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6397670)
yeah, tell that to the '04 Red Sox (Nomar) and the '08 Red Sox (Manny). If you don't think a star can really do a number on a team's atmosphere, you're sadly mistaken.

Didn't that 2004 team win the WS for the first time in eleventy billion years, and the 2008 team come back from a 3-1 deficit to force a Game 7 in the ALCS?

Amnorix 01-02-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6397677)
Didn't that 2004 team win the WS for the first time in eleventy billion years, and the 2008 team come back from a 3-1 deficit to force a Game 7 in the ALCS?

Right, the '04 team won the WS **AFTER** getting hot after the all star break during which they traded Nomar. Their fortunes clearly and obviously took off after getting rid of him.

Yes, the '08 team did fine to come back from down 3-1 to ultimately lose to a team with less than half the Red Sox' (absurd) payroll. Hard to be too impressed with it, really.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-02-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk (Post 6397640)
I hope the Seahawks go after him.. Mike sando thinks they might..

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post...-help-seahawks

LMAO Just give them their first back. That would be awesome. Effectively get the guy for a 2nd.

TheGuardian 01-02-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 6397803)
Right, the '04 team won the WS **AFTER** getting hot after the all star break during which they traded Nomar. Their fortunes clearly and obviously took off after getting rid of him.

Yes, the '08 team did fine to come back from down 3-1 to ultimately lose to a team with less than half the Red Sox' (absurd) payroll. Hard to be too impressed with it, really.

And everyone knows how TO divided the locker rooms he has been in.

Look, I'm ok with certain guys that have certain types of baggage. For example, Michael Irvin had the drug problem, but the guy was as hard a worker and as loved by his teammates as anyone. And in the locker room and on the field he was all about winning and helping his team win. I'm not saying that I want a big drug user on the team, I'm saying you're always going to have some guys with baggage, but you have to find out whether or not it effects the team.

In Marshall's case, it does. In TO's case, it does/did. Larry Johnson? We all know about that. That's the point, you don't want guys that cause problems in the locker room or on the field. I don't give a damn how much talent they have, a locker room divided will NOT win anything. This is a fact. So any player that brings that kind of behavior into the locker room, I don't want. So Marshall can go corrupt some other team someplace else or stay in donkey land where he gets force fed the ball/has his stats padded more than any other WR in the league.

Chief Faithful 01-02-2010 08:23 AM

The Donks contractually tied him up last year so no way they let him go to a division rival.

Titty Meat 01-02-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 6398001)
The Donks contractually tied him up last year so no way they let him go to a division rival.

No team is going to trade a first round pick for him. If he's that much of a distraction McDaniels is dumb enough to flat out cut him.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-02-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6396732)
Denver will probably never actually deal him.

He will be a restricted free agent. I doubt he stays in Denver. I imagine he signs an offer sheet somewhere else and they give up a pick for him.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-02-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6398098)
No team is going to trade a first round pick for him. If he's that much of a distraction McDaniels is dumb enough to flat out cut him.

He will be a restricted free agent. Meaning that so long as Denver tenders him, another team will forfeit a draft pick.

And, if you don't think a team will give up a first for him... you are stupid.

KCDC 01-02-2010 10:58 AM

Realistically, Marshall is a super talent. If he was motivated to play for us, he would be a great addition. Sadly, he's got TO and Moss syndrome. He wants to play for a big market team and be worshipped. I can't remember TO faking an injury, but maybe he did.

Bottom line, Marshall won't come here. If he got traded here, he would mope just the same until we got rid of him, so I think we would be wise to just assume that such a lovely fantasy of having a Marshall-Bowe tandem will have to remain that -- a fantasy.

Mile High Mania 01-02-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6398098)
No team is going to trade a first round pick for him. If he's that much of a distraction McDaniels is dumb enough to flat out cut him.

ROFL Yeah, right...

SenselessChiefsFan 01-02-2010 10:59 AM

I would love to see Marshall here. I don't think Haley would do well with him, but I don't think Haley does well with anyone. I'd rather have the talent for the next coach.

RippedmyFlesh 01-02-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6397644)
I don't really think you should put an entire team of those types of guys together but a couple won't kill a team.

Exactly it's a football team not an accounting office you need some guys to stir things up. Not a whole team like mecca said but if you have no guys like this you are stale and lifeless.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-02-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6398132)
ROFL Yeah, right...

Don't pay attention to the 'special needs' Chiefs fan... every team has them. I am surprised the short bus is willing to drop Knowmo off over here.


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