I have no idea what you're talking about. Mostly because I have no idea what I'm talking about -- the post you quoted was a botched joke because I misread someone's username.

Who hacked into Dane's account?

Yes.

I am tired of the glass half-empty mentality. It's time to look at what we did get out of the draft:



A mean and nasty bastard for the OLine

Possibly the best safety in the NFL for the next 10 years

Two fantastic playmakers that can change a game on ONE play

A TE, if he can stay healthy, will be in the top 10 TE's in the NFL.

:thumb:

What I'm talking about are some of the members here screaming and whining and bitching that THEIR players weren't chosen.

FTR, I happen to like most of those guys quite a bit and communicate with them outside of the forum. I have great respect for them as human beings and our friendships.

I just happen to think they're wrong.

Passing up a franchise QB for a ****ing 5 tech is criminal. Drafting for a one year wonder was flat out dumb. Taking another 5 tech and a junior CB with issues was asinine. I've complained about all of those moves for the past year and I haven't changed my opinion.

But in taking the best safety prospect in a decade, two dynamic players, a ****ing stud guard and a TE with a gigantic upside, I have absolutely NO complaints. I like the 5th round selections as well.

I think this 40 time bullshit is overrated as well. Scouts look at two things: How fast a guy plays (projected 40 time) and his 40 time. If his projected time is faster than his actual time, that means he's an instinctual player on defense. There have been plenty of "fast" draft choices (Gholston, DJ, etc.) that can't play at the next level consistently (or at all) because they aren't instinctive football players.

The bottom line is that the Chiefs DID address needs in the 2010 draft but obviously not the "needs" that some felt were necessary this year.

LMAO

Rep for honesty.

Yeah, I understand what you're talking about and I understand that there's a difference in how the word "foundational" is being used. I just thought it was funny how it sounded so much like the arguments that the OL fans get blasted for.

I don't agree with your full time versus part time distinction though. At least not in the context of these picks against some of the guys that the "playmaker" advocates (maybe not you) were calling for (e.g. Spiller, Tate, Haden, Gilyard, etc.)

And that is why I haven't been yelling at you or calling you names since yesterday -- we may have some disagreements regarding this draft but your positions are well-argued and sensible. I was disappointed though when you called me out for faux outrage, implying that I would have bitched no matter what happened in the draft.

I don't think a player can be a "steal" if they are drafted in the 1st round, and the team that drafted them traded up to draft them 2 rounds before the player was expected to go. The best you can hope for is that he at least justifies his draft position. He will never be known as a steal.

I hear that. I was looking forward to a defense heavy draft with some combination of a superstar safety, a pass rushing OLB, and either a ILB or a big NT or both to handle the middle because I miss the days of strong defense in KC. It looks like the Chiefs decided to take a different approach. Even though it's different though, it seems rational to me so I'm cautiously optimistic that their plan will pay off.

I apologize. It wasn't my intent to single you out though upon re-reading, I completely understand how you read it as such.

Again, my apologies.

That is definitely one thing you can take out of this draft... that our scouting department does not give a flying leap about 40 times, that's for sure.

Well said Dane. I will never forgive Pioli for the 09 draft class, throw Sanchez and Maualaga in here and we are on the verge of challenging. But I have no idea how anyone can look at what we have added this weekend and give it a D grade. They filled needs across the board with quality prospects(4 of Gosselin's top 75). It's right up there with the 08 class as far as I'm concerned.
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Dane I disagree with you the Arenas pick was ****ing horrible. For ****s sake they could have traded back and drafted Arenas. And Pioli has traded how many picks to draft tight ends?

That is demonstrably false.

The Pro Bowl is littered with UDFA kick returners. Clifton Smith, Michael Lewis, Josh Cribbs, to name a few.

Not to mention elite KR's like LaRod Stephens-Howling, Stefan Logan, or even SEMO's own Willie Ponder.

Wasting a 2nd round draft pick on a kick returner is completely foolish.

What you can't find are elite nose tackles off the street.

Casey Hampton, Vince Wilfork, Jamal Williams, Shaun Rogers, and Kris Jenkins were all very high draft picks.

It's a complete inversion of value.