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Kyle DeLexus 07-16-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884003)
I was sitting in a movie theater the other day, and this big ad started playing with a giant soda and popcorn. The soda was fizzing and sparkling, the popcorn had butter running over it...it looked so inviting.

Before that ad I wasn't even thinking about popcorn or soda. After it, I had to resist temptation.

Watch Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me and tell me the food industry isn't to blame....

Sure advertising works...companies wouldn't spend billions every year on it if it didn't, but It's still about choice. People sure resist temptation when they see a 24 hour fitness ad. I know I don't blame advertising when I decide to have fastfood...I blame myself for being a overindulging fatass.

AndChiefs 07-16-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6883998)
What are your stats? Height and weight? I bet you're not actually obese according to the BMI scale.

6'2, 210, 27 BMI.

And you're right Silock...I just double checked it and I'm only "overweight". For some reason I was thinking 25 was obese not 30.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884003)
I was sitting in a movie theater the other day, and this big ad started playing with a giant soda and popcorn. The soda was fizzing and sparkling, the popcorn had butter running over it...it looked so inviting.

Before that ad I wasn't even thinking about popcorn or soda. After it, I had to resist temptation.

Watch Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me and tell me the food industry isn't to blame....

You don't recognize the irony in you citing a faux documentary as the foundation for you blaming "the food industry" for America being fat?

No, of course you don't.

Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6883999)
Go watch that video Zach posted the other day.

People didn't even know they wanted chunky-style spaghetti sauce. They told Prego they wanted something entirely different.

Then Prego started giving them options...

People wanted a particular style of sauce. They hadn't been able to put that desire into words in such a fashion that the spaghetti sauce industry could cater to their desires. Once that desire was discovered, the food was made, Prego sales improved and the spaghetti sauce industry was changed dramatically.

What part of "consumer driven" are you missing there?

RJ 07-16-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884014)
If you go back and read my previous posts, I'm not advocating legislation or control. Rather an effort to make losing weight, exercising and eating healthy easier and cheaper.

That's really all they can do. Or should do.


Okay, that at least makes more sense to me than trying to legislate advertising.

ClevelandBronco 07-16-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884003)
I was sitting in a movie theater the other day, and this big ad started playing with a giant soda and popcorn. The soda was fizzing and sparkling, the popcorn had butter running over it...it looked so inviting.

Before that ad I wasn't even thinking about popcorn or soda. After it, I had to resist temptation.

Watch Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me and tell me the food industry isn't to blame....

Why "blame" anyone? You have vulnerabilities, but you're not to "blame" for them. Everyone has them.

Just Passin' By 07-16-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884014)
If you go back and read my previous posts, I'm not advocating legislation or control. Rather an effort to make losing weight, exercising and eating healthy easier and cheaper.

That's really all they can do. Or should do.

And seat belts will just be a suggestion, like non-smoking regulations will just give people a small area of freedom in an enclosed space full of smokers.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6884016)
Dude, it's not a movie, it's freaking food. There's not a living thing on this planet that isn't born wanting it.

We're talking about a specific type of food, though.

It's like stuffed-crust pizza. Before I knew about stuffed-crust pizza, I had no desire for it. It never thought to myself, I want some pizza with cheese stuffed in the crust. I never thought to myself, this pizza would be so much better if it's crust was stuffed with cheese.

The thought never entered my head.

Then pizza hut started advertising pizza with CHEESE STUFFED INTO THE CRUST!!!!!!!!!

I had to ****ing have it.

And so I started eating even more fattening and caloric-ridden slices of pizza.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6884019)
You don't recognize the irony in you citing a faux documentary as the foundation for you blaming "the food industry" for America being fat?

No, of course you don't.

Super Size Me is fake?

ClevelandBronco 07-16-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884014)
If you go back and read my previous posts, I'm not advocating legislation or control...

But you are advocating a government-sponsored weight-loss program,and that's enough reason to ridicule you.

DJ's left nut 07-16-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884027)
We're talking about a specific type of food, though.

It's like stuffed-crust pizza. Before I knew about stuffed-crust pizza, I had no desire for it. It never thought to myself, I want some pizza with cheese stuffed in the crust. I never thought to myself, this pizza would be so much better if it's crust was stuffed with cheese.

The thought never entered my head.

Then pizza hut started advertising pizza with CHEESE STUFFED INTO THE CRUST!!!!!!!!!

I had to ****ing have it.

And so I started eating even more fattening and caloric-ridden slices of pizza.

Yup.

The Federal Government loves you.

AndChiefs 07-16-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884027)
We're talking about a specific type of food, though.

It's like stuffed-crust pizza. Before I knew about stuffed-crust pizza, I had no desire for it. It never thought to myself, I want some pizza with cheese stuffed in the crust. I never thought to myself, this pizza would be so much better if it's crust was stuffed with cheese.

The thought never entered my head.

Then pizza hut started advertising pizza with CHEESE STUFFED INTO THE CRUST!!!!!!!!!

I had to ****ing have it.

And so I started eating even more fattening and caloric-ridden slices of pizza.

Just because you personally didn't tell them you wanted it doesn't mean others did not. They don't just put something in the marketplace and start advertising and selling it without someone telling them they want it.

Hammock Parties 07-16-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6884015)
Just because an ad comes on doesn't mean I'm going to go out and get popcorn unless I want it.

Well, some people are fairly open to suggestion and can be swayed easily.

Donger 07-16-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6884034)
Well, some people are fairly open to suggestion and can be swayed easily.

Indeed, just look at the 2008 election.

Silock 07-16-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 6884018)
6'2, 210, 27 BMI.

And you're right Silock...I just double checked it and I'm only "overweight". For some reason I was thinking 25 was obese not 30.

See, even for guys that go to the gym regularly, BMI isn't TOO far off. It's not totally accurate, but hardly anything that's generalizable is. For instance, if I let my diet go a bit and don't stay shredded, my BMI creeps up into overweight. But if I stay at a very low body fat, I can keep all my muscle mass and still be considered "normal" bodyweight, albeit at the higher end.

Part of the problem for guys who work out is that they think they need to weigh more than they actually do to maintain muscle mass or be "big." As for what that means for BMI, if the gov't is going to use it in some calculations, then there needs to be an exemption for people who teeter on the normal/overweight boundary pending a doctor's exam.


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