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kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6907628)
They do have a good system, but, I don't agree with giving a #1 overall pick a ton of money when he hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. Thats just me.

I only say that because there are no guarantees. We've seem either boom or busts. If the guy pans out, great. If not, as an organization, the best prospect coming out of the draft that you depend on to make your team better, can set you back from both a personnel and financial standpoint. Kinda puts organizations in a bit of a landslide.

I'd like to see that economical aspect of the game change. Im more in the thought of, give rookies a certain flat base salary and reward them afterwards based on what they do later on in their careers.

I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907768)
I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

wow ... i think that's a first

beer bacon 07-30-2010 03:44 PM

Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

Rooster 07-30-2010 03:45 PM

He's no Mike Brown...................................................I keed........I keed.........


Good work FO..:clap:

Pants 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6907776)
Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

It should go to the veterans who have proven themselves.

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907770)
wow ... i think that's a first

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure Berry's pretty happy with the situation right now.:D

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6907776)
Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

this isn't really about Owners vs Players ... this is about Rookie Player vs Veteran players.

the salary cap number is the same, it's just whether the money should be paid to draftees or saved for veterans

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907782)
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure Berry's pretty happy with the situation right now.:D

heh

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6907781)
It should go to the veterans who have proven themselves.

Like LJ?? It doesn't matter what stage someone's career is in. They are never a sure thing.

chiefzilla1501 07-30-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907768)
I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

Law students work pretty damn hard too. That doesn't mean that when they get out of law school, they get to make twice as much as a law firm partner. The fact that Matt Stafford is the second-highest paid QB in the NFL is beyond comprehension.

beer bacon 07-30-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907783)
this isn't really about Owners vs Players ... this is about Rookie Player vs Veteran players.

the salary cap number is the same, it's just whether the money should be paid to draftees or saved for veterans

I thought one of the disagreements between the NFLPA and ownership was that the NFLPA wants an agreement that any money saved through a rookie cap would go towards veterans and retired players. On the other hand, ownership is not in favor of this agreement because otherwise they could pocket a lot of the savings from a rookie salary cap. Is this not correct?

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6907793)
Law students work pretty damn hard too. That doesn't mean that when they get out of law school, they get to make twice as much as a law firm partner. The fact that Matt Stafford is the second-highest paid QB in the NFL is beyond comprehension.

Law students don't typically deal with the very real possibility of suffering a career ending injury the first time they step into the court room. Plus, college football players don't just work hard. They are used to make boatloads of money for the colleges and coaches. Not a good comparison.

BossChief 07-30-2010 05:29 PM

Seems formerdb on the coalition was spot on when he said Berry would sign thursday or friday.

Brock 07-30-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907807)
Law students don't typically deal with the very real possibility of suffering a career ending injury the first time they step into the court room. Plus, college football players don't just work hard. They are used to make boatloads of money for the colleges and coaches. Not a good comparison.

You missed the point entirely.

orange 07-30-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6907334)
Berry has more star potential than anyone we've drafted since _______ ?

Glenn Dorsey. :D


[edit] Oops, repost.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6907350)
Dorsey (if we didn't Teahen him).



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