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Saccopoo 09-10-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6990821)
I guess we'll see what happens in a few weeks it's not like the Pac 10 has impressive defenses.

They will when Utah gets there. Can't speak for the rest of the shitty teams in that overrated conference though.

Personally, I think Utah screwed up by leaving and deconstructing what could have been a new football powerhouse conference with them, BYU, TCU and Boise State in the Mountain West. It does go to show that it's all about them dollar bills.

DJ's left nut 09-10-2010 03:58 PM

Gabbert has as high a ceiling as any QB in the draft and probably higher.

He has a cannon for an arm and ideal NFL size. He's very athletic and extremely mobile for someone his size. Further, despite being injured last year, I think he'll prove extremely durable due to his size/athleticism. Look at the hit that Suh laid on him - lesser QBs are out for the season on that hit and Gabbert didn't miss a drive. His strength and flexibility are the only things that kept his leg from breaking or bursting on that hit.

He does have his warts, though. Yes, he was better in the 2nd half of last week's game, but his weakness both in the first half and most of last season was pocket awareness. He does get skittish in the pocket and there's just no dancing around it. He's also not as decisive back there as I'd like to see. Daniel knew what he wanted to do and had no qualms acting as the triggerman. Gabbert doesn't have that kind of confidence in himself. Finally, he is a pure spread QB. I thought Bradford was a great pick because he was in a hybrid spread and possessed uncanny accuracy. Gabbert isn't in a hybrid and his accuracy isn't to Bradford's level. As such, I think Gabbert will have a very steep learning curve ahead of him.

But I'd still take him in a heartbeat. If he's coached up well, he has the potential to be a truly elite, franchise level QB. He has a skill-set unrivaled among the current crop of QBs. Will he be able to translate it to the NFL? Hard to say, but damn I'd like to find out.

RustShack 09-10-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6990978)
Yeah, 34-48-0 (71%), 281 yds, & 2 TDs...scary awful.

Good for his college stats, but they way he actually played wont work in the NFL, like I've said several times. Dumbass.

Frankie 09-10-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall (Post 6990592)
Every one of these college QBs we're discussing are better than Cassel.

Until one of them wears a Chiefs uniform.

DeezNutz 09-10-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6991982)
Gabbert has as high a ceiling as any QB in the draft and probably higher.

He has a cannon for an arm and ideal NFL size. He's very athletic and extremely mobile for someone his size. Further, despite being injured last year, I think he'll prove extremely durable due to his size/athleticism. Look at the hit that Suh laid on him - lesser QBs are out for the season on that hit and Gabbert didn't miss a drive. His strength and flexibility are the only things that kept his leg from breaking or bursting on that hit.

He does have his warts, though. Yes, he was better in the 2nd half of last week's game, but his weakness both in the first half and most of last season was pocket awareness. He does get skittish in the pocket and there's just no dancing around it. He's also not as decisive back there as I'd like to see. Daniel knew what he wanted to do and had no qualms acting as the triggerman. Gabbert doesn't have that kind of confidence in himself. Finally, he is a pure spread QB. I thought Bradford was a great pick because he was in a hybrid spread and possessed uncanny accuracy. Gabbert isn't in a hybrid and his accuracy isn't to Bradford's level. As such, I think Gabbert will have a very steep learning curve ahead of him.

But I'd still take him in a heartbeat. If he's coached up well, he has the potential to be a truly elite, franchise level QB. He has a skill-set unrivaled among the current crop of QBs. Will he be able to translate it to the NFL? Hard to say, but damn I'd like to find out.

We're simply not going to find common ground about Gabbert's pocket awareness. This aside, I also don't agree with the notion that he's a "pure spread QB." Coming out of high school, he was the #1 pro-style QB in the country.

Yeah, yeah, I realize HS was a long time ago. But, ****, apparently it's a viable benchmark at 1 Arrowhead.

Like almost all n00bs, I think Gabbert would profit greatly from spending at least 1/2 of a season learning behind a competent veteran, but I think he'll make the transition well.

Frankie 09-11-2010 03:22 PM

Funny thing happened on my attempt to watch Christian Ponder today:

I fell in awe of Landry Jones!

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-12-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6993565)
Funny thing happened on my attempt to watch Christian Ponder today:

I fell in awe of Landry Jones!

DID YOU **** HIM???? DID YOU??? DID YOU???

DeezNutz 09-18-2010 09:39 PM

Dude looked like complete shit in today's game. Complete ****ing garbage.

I'm going to keep following his progress, but, based on everything I've seen to this point, I would not advocate drafting this kid in the first round; he is not an NFL QB.

Reerun_KC 09-18-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7015526)
Dude looked like complete shit in today's game. Complete ****ing garbage.

I'm going to keep following his progress, but, based on everything I've seen to this point, I would not advocate drafting this kid in the first round; he is not an NFL QB.

this!

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-18-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7015526)
Dude looked like complete shit in today's game. Complete ****ing garbage.

I'm going to keep following his progress, but, based on everything I've seen to this point, I would not advocate drafting this kid in the first round; he is not an NFL QB.

Yeah, congrats to those corn-sucking bundle of stickss on the win.:evil:

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2010 09:47 PM

Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.

DeezNutz 09-18-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7015554)
Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), I didn't see the Mizzou game today. Regarding Locker, I just haven't seen it with this kid. I like Mallett and Gabbert far more.

Not ready to take a position on Luck, yet.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-18-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7015554)
Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.

I don't think so. There is a clear line of deficiency that has been drawn in the sand. It's common, accepted knowledge among a large base that we could be competitive THIS YEAR with an improvement at the position that doesn't require(though we should always seek)an "Elway/Young" at the position.

It's coming. Be patient.

alanm 09-18-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7015554)
Gabbert was ****ing horrendous today too, but it doesn't help when the OC isn't calling downfield passing plays.

Either way, all of these QBs will have just enough warts so that the anti-QB crowd can throw a shit fit at the thought of drafting any of them.

Locker was playing against one of the best defensive backfields in the country today. I didn't get to see Missouri today. What was up with Gabbert?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7015573)
Unfortunately (or fortunately, as the case may be), I didn't see the Mizzou game today. Regarding Locker, I just haven't seen it with this kid. I like Mallett and Gabbert far more.

Not ready to take a position on Luck, yet.

Well, I only listened to the game on the radio, but Gabbert threw two back breaking picks when we needed him the most, he was also very inaccurate save for a stretch in the second quarter.

Again, it doesn't help that we have no running game and that all our passes are 0-5 yards downfield. Gabbert plays better the more we stretch the field.

Yost and Pinkel simply have to go.

I don't know why we don't implement more traditional sets with our offense. We have decent size on the line and a number of large WRs and TEs who can beat single coverage. I actually think the spread makes this a worse offense.


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