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Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8583016)
McCluster, whom nobody really has any idea what to do with him.

LMAO

Pioli has a good idea: draft players to replace him.

007 04-30-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8583069)
Well done, Capt. Obvious :)

Well, why did you even ask the question then. :evil:

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8583233)
How many wins did the pats get that don't count? How about GB?

I didn't say those wins didn't count. Try to keep up.

Direckshun is sitting here saying last year's team, even without Berry, Charles and Mo, is worth 7 wins THIS SEASON.

Add those other players and you get 10-6 or something like that.

THIS SEASON...we're unlikely to face that many horrible quarterbacks who are going to gift us wins. That's truly an alignment of the stars.

It's no different than saying the 2010 Chiefs weren't as good as their record indicated...or the 1995 Chiefs, etc.

Frazod 04-30-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8583189)
Yes. The Chiefs won the division two seasons ago with Cassel and a full allotment of players, but somehow with MORE talent and those '10 players coming back...healthy...we're one of the five worst teams in the league.

Makes sense.
:rolleyes:

The problem with the 2010 Division win was that the division sucked and the schedule was ridiculously easy. They didn't beat a single good team (perhaps one "meh" team in eternally underperforming San Diego), and got curbstomped in the playoffs. Basically they were the 2007 Jayhawks, only Baltimore was waiting for them at the end and not the Chokies.

Brock 04-30-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583226)
DUDE.

I keep telling you:

You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.

We got practically gifted five of those wins because we played Caleb Hanie, Tim Tebow, Donovan McNabb, Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller.

Hanie and Tebow threw up all of 3 points against us. Boller threw up 0.

Painter sucked for an entire scoreless half, paving the way for our "comeback." McNabb was McNabb.

Last year's Chiefs were a 4-12 team that ran into some really shitty quarterbacks. I would be shocked if we held 3 teams to 3 or fewer points this season.


Yeah, because we didn't have serious injuries to deal with just like everybody else. You moron.

DJ's left nut 04-30-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8583218)
He's more consistent now than before. He's a better, more polished player now. You said he was the same guy. He isn't. Same goes for DJ, Hali, etc.

He might be marginally better due to age and experience.

But I don't see how you can argue he's jumped up a tier. Even in his career season he cost us a game with a critical 3rd down drop. Last year he dropped a TD right before the interception that cost us a chance at the playoffs.

He was slightly underrated as a young WR and I think we're slightly overrating what he is now. Bowe is a fringe #1; one of the top 15-20 WRs in the game. He probably wasn't ranked quite that high to begin with age and attrition has taken some players out of the ranks of competition. He's presently in his physical prime and playing as such.

But I just don't see the refinement to his game that you all do. His greatest strides have been as a blocker, but he'll still roll out his routes and he'll still drop big plays...right before making a spectacular one.

Same guy, IMO. Slightly better, perhaps, but ultimately he's 90% similar to what he was when Haley showed up.

HemiEd 04-30-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8583231)
That is the stupidest logic I've ever heard. ****, you are the worst football poster on this forum.

By your logic, every team should start deducting wins off their schedule because they beat teams with bad QB's.

I swear, you are borderline downs.

The Broncos should have gone winless and drafting ahead of the Colts. ROFL

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:19 PM

But don't you see, the injuries pretty much cancel each other out.

Give the Bears back Cutler and Forte, give the Chiefs back Charles and Berry.

I bet the Bears beat the Chiefs.

Don't even want to think about what happens if you give the Colts back Manning, or if the Raiders don't have to start Kyle Boller. Berry and Charles didn't save us from a healthy Raiders team in 2010, for sure.

Brock 04-30-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583249)
But don't you see, the injuries pretty much cancel each other out.

Give the Bears back Cutler and Forte, give the Chiefs back Charles and Berry.

I bet the Bears beat the Chiefs.

Don't even want to think about what happens if you give the Colts back Manning, or if the Raiders don't have to start Kyle Boller. Berry and Charles didn't save us from a healthy Raiders team in 2010, for sure.

If the injuries pretty much cancel each other out, WTF are you bringing them up? Oh yeah, to prove your fake point.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8583246)
The Broncos should have gone winless and drafting ahead of the Colts. ROFL

The Broncos were definitely paper tigers, and that's why their front office had the foresight to get Manning and dump Tebow.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8583251)
If the injuries pretty much cancel each other out, WTF are you bringing them up?

It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.

ToxSocks 04-30-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583255)
It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.

Your argument is reeruned. Just leave the thread now and save face.

Hammock Parties 04-30-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8583258)
Your argument is reeruned. Just leave the thread now and save face.

It's rather logical, actually.

Or did you think the Chiefs could actually beat a healthy Raiders team that swept us in 2010? When we were healthy?

Brock 04-30-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8583255)
It only strengthens my point.

If there were no injuries at all in the NFL last year, we're probably still a 7-8 win team. Sure, we'd get better by having a couple of players back. So would other teams.


You can't look at last year's team as a legit 7-win team.




You don't say.

King_Chief_Fan 04-30-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8583158)
Man if we won the Super Bowl in my lifetime I wouldn't be complaining for a LONG time. Football is my favorite sport and the Chiefs are my favorite team so the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl would be icing on the sports cake for me. You could take all my teams away but the Chiefs.

makes sense....I saw them in 2 SB's. yup, I am old.


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