Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9200444)

What difference would it really have made if they'd taken a Ryan Leaf hit at QB instead of Victor Riley? Or an Akili Smith hit at QB instead of John Tait? Or David Carr instead of Ryan Sims?

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9200427)

And the rest of the quality players on the team burn off another year.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9200447)

Dude, the Chiefs will pick NO LOWER THAN THIRD. That's not an assumption, that's an implied FACT.

There are at least 3 top QBs in this draft that many people feel are worth a top pick. That is an assumption but one that pretty much everybody got except you. We've only been talking about Wilson, Smith, and Barkley hourly for about 10 weeks now.

Don't act like the "assumption" you mention was absurd because it absolutely wasn't.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9200396)

You say sophistry, I say reading the words you posted.

You and htis were emphatically saying 'pick one, just pick one. who cares which one, who cares if he busts, we need one.'

All I countered with was 'you need to do a little more due diligence, and carefully analyze if he's not going to bust is not a clearly inferior prospect to the rest of the available draft class.

After a bunch of bullshit, you guys finally come out with 'of course it was ASSUMED that he was an undeniable #1 prospect with low likelihood of busting.'

I want a QB as much as anyone, and have been as vocal about it as anyone here FOR YEARS. Doesn't mean I want the Chiefs to go QB blind and throw a dart at some QB only draft chart.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9200477)

If not through the draft, then how? If not Smith/Wilson/Barkley, then whom do we find?

We have no talent at the position currently, and thus we're wasting prime years for everyone, so we have to solve this with an injection of talent. Where will we find the best talent?

Talented QBs rarely hit the FA and trade market. It happens, but not often.

We have to find our own new-QB smell instead of dousing someone else's piece of shit with Fabreeze.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9200485)

Barkley does not have a weaker arm than Pennington. No way. Nooooo waaayyyy.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9200483)

See this is where we disagree. There is a top 2 and then a bunch of others. I just don't see how Barkley is considered a top QB.
As mentioned early and you agreed Barkley has a weaker arm than Chad Pennington and is not a cerebral as Pennington was. How is Barkley top anything? Oh yeah because he is available and you are desperate.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9200489)

Exactly, exactly.

I've yet to see anybody actually address this.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9200482)

Somebody's a little unstable.

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9200477)

If not through the draft, then how? If not Smith/Wilson/Barkley, then whom do we find?

We have no talent at the position currently, and thus we're wasting prime years for everyone, so we have to solve this with an injection of talent. Where will we find the best talent?

Talented QBs rarely hit the FA and trade market. It happens, but not often.

We have to find our own new-QB smell instead of dousing someone else's piece of shit with Fabreeze.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9200490)

Pennington didn't have arm issues until after he had the shoulder issues.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9200494)

Eh, I get like that around here all the time. It happens.