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O.city 02-23-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9427606)
I don't have a problem with your conclusion, but I have three problems with the other things you said.

1. Drafting Joeckel and keeping Albert wouldn't be a short term move though. It would be a long term move because the centerpiece would be that you're theoretically improving LT while getting 5 years younger.

2. Whether he plays G or T, Branden Albert will be eating up the same amount of cap space and preventing the signing of the same free agents.

3. I'm also not sure why you say so emphatically that Rodney Hudson was a better guard in college than Branden Albert.

Iirc whic I may not, Albert moved to guard to allow ferguson or Monroe to play lt, he was good, Hudson was an all American and was rated highly coming out.

Yes joeckel would be a long te move.

patteeu 02-23-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9427613)
Because he was?

Convincing argument.

O.city 02-23-2013 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9427612)
That's already been mentioned. Albert will either be signed or tagged before the draft in all likelihood.

Then that would likely take joeckel out of the discussion all together, if the intend on playing Albert at lt. If not, based on this offseason, he will play lt elsewhere. He's said he won't play guard

patteeu 02-23-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9427614)
Iirc whic I may not, Albert moved to guard to allow ferguson or Monroe to play lt, he was good, Hudson was an all American and was rated highly coming out.

Yes joeckel would be a long te move.

Ok, thanks.

patteeu 02-23-2013 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9427617)
Then that would likely take joeckel out of the discussion all together, if the intend on playing Albert at lt. If not, based on this offseason, he will play lt elsewhere. He's said he won't play guard

I think the chances of it happening are pretty tiny to begin with. But once they sign Albert, he'll play where they tell him to play. He may not be happy about it, but he's not going to sit out and forfeit his payday. Alternatively, they could play Albert at LT and let Joeckel start his career at G or RT for a year before making the switch.

O.city 02-23-2013 01:36 AM

If they are signing or tagging Albert its likely to play lt, hence we will probably look elsewhere at #1.


At this point I don't know what they look at there though so anyone's guess is as good as mine

O.city 02-23-2013 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9427622)
I think the chances of it happening are pretty tiny to begin with. But once they sign Albert, he'll play where they tell him to play. He may not be happy about it, but he's not going to sit out and forfeit his payday. Alternatively, they could play Albert at LT and let Joeckel start his career at G or RT for a year before making the switch.

I don't think he'd sign without knowing their intentions. Wouldn't be setting a very good example for future free agents to do that to him.


And joeckel to my knowledge has never played eithe spot so that's probably not working out.

O.city 02-23-2013 01:40 AM

Either way I'm off to bed


Enjoyed it patteu

patteeu 02-23-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9427625)
I don't think he'd sign without knowing their intentions. Wouldn't be setting a very good example for future free agents to do that to him.

I agree with that.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9427625)
And joeckel to my knowledge has never played eithe spot so that's probably not working out.

I don't think it will happen, but I don't agree that his lack of experience is much of an obstacle.

patteeu 02-23-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9427627)
Either way I'm off to bed


Enjoyed it patteu

Goodnight.

BigMeatballDave 02-23-2013 06:24 AM

Signing/tagging Albert AND drafting Joeckel would be so incredibly dumb.

A huge ****ing waste of a 1st rd pick.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-23-2013 07:23 AM

You'd have to be a buffoon to want the team to not resign Albert only to blow the number one pick by not improving a 2-14 team with it.

Hammock Parties 02-23-2013 07:24 AM

Who the **** is Alberts?

Why is our fan base comprised of 2/3 reeruns?

milkman 02-23-2013 07:24 AM

First, what no one even begins note, is that last season was only Albert's 4th season in his playing career at the. LT position.

He had to learn on the job essentially, and has just started to touch his potential.
He still has more upside, and hasn't even come close to reaching his cceiling, and he is already a top LT.

If you want to argue that Joekel. Has more potential, I would disagree with argument.

Second, to patteau's idea, it simply is not a sound financial decision.

Forget the fact that you'd be paying LT money to guard.

With your plan, with the rookie slotting, you would be committing 15 to 16 mil a year to just 2 line positions.

Not a sound Llotment of.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-23-2013 07:25 AM

ALBERT IS NOT A GUARD JFC


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