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O.city 09-24-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10016940)
Right... all I am saying is, why write him off or hold him to a different standard because he hasn't been effective immediately? He made the biggest jump in the level of competition he's facing of anybody we've added in the draft in recent years.

He developed pretty steadily at the collegiate level but this is a whole different ballgame. It was always going to take time.

That's the breaks. It's not necessarily his fault, but he was the first pick if the draft, that's what happens.

Pablo 09-24-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10016940)
Right... all I am saying is, why write him off or hold him to a different standard because he hasn't been effective immediately? He made the biggest jump in the level of competition he's facing of anybody we've added in the draft in recent years.

He developed pretty steadily at the collegiate level but this is a whole different ballgame. It was always going to take time.

Well, there's that whole pesky 1.1 thing.

Where our GM and HC prattled on and on about getting the right guy at that pick. We can act like the fact that he was the 1.1 pick isn't a big deal; and he's just another highly drafted guy. But it isn't true. It never will be.

It's not really fair to him. He didn't decide to be drafted at 1.1 anymore than Tyson Jackson decided to be drafted at 1.3. But those guys are going to be forever tied to their draft spots, and the fact that they were the first picks for their respective regimes.

We all trusted our new GM and this regime to be better at drafting than the old one. Even more so when they go the "safe" route and take a RT at that pick. Which means most of us would like to see their first draft effort look like an NFL player. He hasn't yet. That's concerning.

Cannibal 09-24-2013 09:18 PM

Way too early to write Fisher off.

Hell, the entire line, especially the interior, has been shit this year.

Pablo 09-24-2013 09:18 PM

The Chiefs could have had ANY draft eligible player in the entire world. They took Eric Fisher. He looks like a slapdick through three games. This is CP; where we melt down and over-react.

Are some of you really that surprised at the backlash this guy is getting?

Pablo 09-24-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 10016976)
Way too early to write Fisher off.

Hell, the entire line, especially the interior, has been shit this year.

I don't think anybody is honestly writing the guy off yet. He still has plenty of time to find his game; I think most of us just expected quite a bit more out of the guy at this point.

Cannibal 09-24-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10016987)
I don't think anybody is honestly writing the guy off yet. He still has plenty of time to find his game; I think most of us just expected quite a bit more out of the guy at this point.

I'm a bit dissatisfied that he hasn't been better, but not terribly worried about it yet. I'm hoping the entire line will gel and hit their stride soon. We need better holes for Charles in the running game. The run blocking almost seems worse than the pass blocking so far.

RealSNR 09-24-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10016810)
Would we be singing this song if it'd been a QB at 1.1?

No... we'd be saying he needs a year or two before we even know what we have.

How hard is this for you to understand? Seriously. :spock:

QBs are different than RTs. They're worth infinitely more.

When you're drafting at 1.1, if you can get an eventual stellar QB who requires 1-2 years of patience and on-field growth, you take that. Because it's a ****ing QB.

When you're drafting at 1.1 and you're faced with the option of drafting a RT who requires the same amount of patience and rookie frustration in order to become just as good at his position, you're much better off looking for a different player at a different position.

Please tell me what you don't understand. It's very important that you get this.

RealSNR 09-24-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace Gunner (Post 10016841)
what has happened to you. Here's the play -- Fisher seals off the edge blocking two defenders. Mayock comments on Fisher's block. what the **** has happened to you.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...yard-touchdown

I... don't know what the hell you're talking about. What the **** has happened to you?

RealSNR 09-24-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10016853)
Well then I think we're in luck, because Fisher will be playing LT next year.

Yeah, lucky us :shake:

Pitt Gorilla 09-24-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10016979)
The Chiefs could have had ANY draft eligible player in the entire world. They took Eric Fisher. He looks like a slapdick through three games. This is CP; where we melt down and over-react.

Are some of you really that surprised at the backlash this guy is getting?

i am surprised. He's a freaking rookie tackle. He is going to get better every single game. Along the way, he's going to make mistakes. There's little question that he has the requisite physical and mental traits and drive to improve.

Pablo 09-24-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10017040)
i am surprised. He's a freaking rookie tackle. He is going to get better every single game. Along the way, he's going to make mistakes. There's little question that he has the requisite physical and mental traits and drive to improve.

Yeah, that's what he's been doing.

Getting better every game.

Don't bother reading the article or anything.

Hammock Parties 09-24-2013 09:40 PM

Thing is, Fisher is getting worse the more he plays.

His worst game was Philly.

O.city 09-24-2013 09:47 PM

If he doesn't get his shit together soon, I'd put Stephenson at rt

Pablo 09-24-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10017078)
If he doesn't get his shit together soon, I'd put Stephenson at rt

He'll get plenty of time. This won't happen.

Hopefully it doesn't end up getting Alex hurt.

Rausch 09-24-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10017052)
Thing is, Fisher is getting worse the more he plays.

His worst game was Philly.

I'd prefer to overpay Albert than have Fish start at LT next year and suck out loud...


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