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blaise 12-18-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 10289298)
Not to turn this political, but I can't help but thinking that as soon as RG3 came out and announced he was a conservative republican and not in love with obama, the media attacked him. After all it wouldn't be the first time.

Thet did seem to be the case with the ESPN analyst that was fired. To me, anyway.

htismaqe 12-18-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 10289780)
I think it's interesting that the story has basically been RGIII and Shanahan. Anyone familiar with the Redskins over the last 10-15 years knows the organization is poison, and the minute RGIII was drafted by them this sort of nonsense was inevitable.
It starts with Snyder and it's never going to change while he's there. If it's not Shanahan and RGIII it will be someone else.

Absolutely agree.

Eleazar 12-18-2013 08:47 AM

He can't read an NFL defense. There's no point in leaving him out there to lose games and risk that knee that's held together by blu-tack until he makes some strides as a QB. Not as an athlete, as a QB

Eleazar 12-18-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 10289780)
I think it's interesting that the story has basically been RGIII and Shanahan. Anyone familiar with the Redskins over the last 10-15 years knows the organization is poison, and the minute RGIII was drafted by them this sort of nonsense was inevitable.
It starts with Snyder and it's never going to change while he's there. If it's not Shanahan and RGIII it will be someone else.

I'm not sure if the Redskins or the Raiders have a poisonous organization that turns good people into bad people. I just think that people like RG3, or in Oakland, Jamarcus Russell, had the same attitude that a 20 year old kid who got drafted would have. They think they are the greatest thing out there, and that their success is all on them. What they need is an organization that helps shape character factors like humility and... well, character in general.

A lot of these young QBs think when they sign the contract that that's it. They don't realize that this is just the beginning of their journey into being a QB, and that no matter where they were drafted or how skilled they are, the odds are still against them

Chief Roundup 12-18-2013 09:07 AM

Most of the NFL Network crew were agreeing that it is all but impossible for RGIII to come back from this deactivation.

htismaqe 12-18-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10289817)
I'm not sure if the Redskins or the Raiders have a poisonous organization that turns good people into bad people. I just think that people like RG3, or in Oakland, Jamarcus Russell, had the same attitude that a 20 year old kid who got drafted would have. They think they are the greatest thing out there, and that their success is all on them. What they need is an organization that helps shape character factors like humility and... well, character in general.

A lot of these young QBs think when they sign the contract that that's it. They don't realize that this is just the beginning of their journey into being a QB, and that no matter where they were drafted or how skilled they are, the odds are still against them

You'd have a point.

If the fail were confined just to the RG3 or Russell era's of their respective teams. As it stands, both teams have a storied history of fail in which RG3 and Russell are merely short chapters.

UK_Chief 12-18-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10289821)
Most of the NFL Network crew were agreeing that it is all but impossible for RGIII to come back from this deactivation.

I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!

Eleazar 12-18-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by UK_Chief (Post 10289843)
I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!

They might not be so bad off if they traded him and could get a 1st round pick in exchange. They spent 3 first round picks on him, but IMO, that's a sunk cost.

Pointless to discuss I suppose, because they aren't going to trade him. Snyder bet the next 5+ years of the franchise on him and they're going to ride that hobby-horse until it dies.

Chief Roundup 12-18-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UK_Chief (Post 10289843)
I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!

Have no idea what they would be asking. But there is no way I want RGIII.

Chieftain58 12-18-2013 09:20 AM

I think Todd Haley did it to Derrick Johnson, Dwayne Bowe and they both turned out better off for it!

Lzen 12-18-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10289859)
Have no idea what they would be asking. But there is no way I want RGIII.

Why not? Is it because he's black? :spock:
















:p

Chief Roundup 12-18-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10290005)
Why not? Is it because he's black? :spock:


:p

I am not a fan of the Read or Zone Option offense. I do not think he can or will ever be able to convert to a pocket passer.
And he seems to have some baggage.

The Franchise 12-18-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10290300)
I am not a fan of the Read or Zone Option offense. I do not think he can or will ever be able to convert to a pocket passer.
And he seems to have some baggage.

I respect that you have your own opinion. I happen to think he can become a good pocket passer. It'll take a coach that is willing to work with him though....and it won't happen in one offseason.

O.city 12-18-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10289168)
So in 2010 while at Baylor, rgIII threw to josh Gordon,Terrance Williams, and Kendall Wright.

Damn.

I feel as if this post got overlooked.

Baby Lee 12-18-2013 12:04 PM

On a tangential note, I may come off as some Archie Bunker type, but those solo 'wheeh you AT!!!' segments of Chris Carter's are HARRRRRABLE!!!


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