OHMYGAWDDDDDD HE SAID IT SO BOWE IS OUR MOST VALUABLE OFFENSIVE PLAYER /Clay

I wish Bowe would just shut his Big Time mouth and actually make some Big Time plays.

That would be nice.

Don't forget.

Check downs to Jamal Charles are a bad idea./ Alex Smith haters.

This year Bowe has been targeted 105 times, 20% of Alex Smith's 508 targets. In 2010, Bowe was targeted 132 times, for 27% of Cassel's 475 targets. A minor discrepancy in target percentage, but a massive discrepancy in output from those targets.

If my stats are correct, then Vernon Davis was targeted 36 times by Smith in his 8 games of 2012, which would be about 16% of his targets. He was targeted 25 times by Kaepernick which would be 11% of his targets. The difference is 11 targets overall, a difference of 1.3 per game.

You put focus on a specific 5 quarters from Alex Smith, and Crabtrees TDs in those quarters. Why do you ignore the other 6 games where Crabtree had none with Smith at QB?

All players should be held accountable on our team. Bowe is not exempt from that. But if Bowe can produce with QBs in the realm of Croyle, Cassel, Huard, Thigpen, why are his numbers at a career low with Alex Smith? Is it because Bowe is all of a sudden a terrible player? Or is it because Alex Smith doesn't like throwing to WRs?

Well, I put a focus on that specific time period because it was showing that Alex Smith and Crabtree had finally started to click.

And, believe it or not, I gave that credit to Crabtree. I have always maintained that Crabtree exploded because Crabtree was growing up as an individual, and was taking the mentoring from Randy Moss seriously.

Randy Moss made Crabtree take his hood off in meetings, start sitting in the front row of meetings.

Crabtree for the first time in his career participated I OTA's, training camp and preseason. He came into camp in the best shape of his career.

Crabtree broke out, because Crabtree is a special player.

Bowe, succeeded with other qbs, because that system wasn't predicated on precision and timing. Bowe has to become a better route runner. That is my premise. Bowe is special enough, strong enough, and good enough that if he wants to beat his man on a slant route, there isn't a corner in the league that can stop him. Its all on him.

Sure, Alex Smith doesn't force feed him the ball. Okay. Well, its on Bowe to give Alex Smith no choice in the matter.

I have heard a lot of people say that Alex Smith wont throw to a covered receiver.


Havent really seen him having a problem throwing to an open one though.


And to your assertion that Alex Smith doesn't like throwing to Receivers.

In 2011, where alex smith took just about every single snap. He targeted crabtree like 40 more times than anyone else.

:shrug:

I don't buy for a second that any offensive system in the NFL is not based on timing and precision. Defenses, and especially players, are way too good to just wing it. The DBowe slant was a staple of Todd Haley's offense, and he frequently dominated on it. Bowe didn't suddenly lose that skill. The difference lies with how open the QBs need receivers to be. Cassel knew he could throw to Bowe on those type of plays and count on Bowe to win. Smith sees Bowe as covered and, for the most part, will avoid those tight throws that Bowe thrived on.

Therein lies the problem so many people have with Smith. It feels like his throwing windows need to be ridiculously wide open. He's supposed to be an accurate QB so he should feel comfortable making more contested throws to Bowe.I know he's a super conservative guy and won't throw into tight coverage, but in not doing so, he's leaving a ton of Bowe's ability under-utilised.

QB's will throw it up to their receivers all the time. Bowe isn't the only receiver who succeeds on those type of plays. Megatron, Dez, Andre Johnson, Marshall, hell you can go with just about any receiver in the league. The NFL isn't such a finesse league that they won't tell their guys, "It's you vs the defensive back. Go up, beat him 1 on 1, and make the grab."

Bowe's dropped 2-3 balls a game? So he has anywhere from 30-50 drops on the year? Your and idiot

That may be true. But, its just that one play against the Giants that just sticks out in my mind. Bowe was in the left slot, it was a version of the rub route where Fasano was basically setting a pick for him, he had one job, to beat his man inside, he didn't, and Alex Smith ended up throwing a pick.

And, no, I am not insinuating that Andy Reids offense is the only offense that is predicated on Precision and timing. But no offenses are as OCD about it, as an offense off of the bill walsh tree.

Yes, Bowe was able to free lance a little more with past qbs.

Alex Smith is not comfortable if a play doesn't go strictly on script. Its a HUGE weakness for him.

But, all of that aside, can you honestly tell me that Dwayne Bowe is a route runner on the level of Welker, Anquan Boldin, or Reggie Wayne?

If you cant, then that is where I am coming from with Bowe.

Bowe is not Calvin Johnson, he is not Josh Gordon. He is not going to blow by you. So he has to use his size, and physicality, and route running to beat corners.

That's all im saying. Not saying he cant. just saying he needs to dedicate himself to it.

He had some hideous drops in that Colts game.

I'm pretty sure Bowe's targets have actually gone up since that game.

I would agree with that.

Which is kind of funny, that its being assumed that Alex doesn't like throwing to receivers.

Alex Smith has actually kind of tried to force feed Bowe a little bit. The colts game was in support of that.

They just need time to get on the same page. Both have things to work on.

I can't say I've seen enough of Boldins or Waynes route running, but Welker is easily the best in the league. So, no Bowe isn't as good a route runner as Welker.

You say Bowe needs to dedicate himself to his route running, I'd love if he improved his game any way he could.

I say Alex Smith needs to dedicate himself to utilizing the talent of his receivers as best he can, off-script or not.

Reggie Wayne is one of the best route runners of all time. As is Boldin. Boldin in his younger days was a 4.7 guy. Hes slow, but his route running and understanding of how to use his body to create space is what makes him special.

I agree with you on Alex Smith. I think personally he was making huge strides on that before he suffered his concussion in 2012.

I believe that with a full offseason of understanding the playbook, and hopefully an upgrade at Tight end, and receiver, along with an offensive line that has had a full year to learn the new system, and learn how to work together, that you will see that growth.

It has been pretty common with Alex Smith that his second year in a system, is a much better year for him.

and why should he?
thow it jamal or mc midget if you want yards, mcgrath if if you want a catch
other than that donny for a chance?

the Bowe No Show is always there for blocking?

Buck toothed Bowe turns my stomach with his attitude.