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John Dope 08-13-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10816263)
Davis
Kelce
Ford
DAT
Fisher
Fulton
Gaines

I think there's still plenty of hope for Dorsey's drafts. Not adding free agents I have zero problems with. Hopefully a solid year of development with those young players and a slew of draft picks next year can really solidify this team and set them up for sustainable success.

I agree man. I think you'll be able to throw Davis, Kush and Capatano in there soon.

Rausch 08-13-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10816263)
Davis
Kelce
Ford
DAT
Fisher
Fulton
Gaines

I think there's still plenty of hope for Dorsey's drafts. Not adding free agents I have zero problems with. Hopefully a solid year of development with those young players and a slew of draft picks next year can really solidify this team and set them up for sustainable success.

It's highly unlikely anyone drafted after the 4th round will come in and be a respectable starter. It's just a rarity. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

Davis is a b/u. Looks like a very solid b/u, but still a b/u. And one with a long injury history. Only started two games last year and by the end of the second was all ****ed up.

Kelce is also coming off a serious injury and this will basically be his rookie year.

Ford is a b/u and rotational player that's horrible vs. the run. At best he's an excellent one dimensional pass rusher and that won't be until next year (unless Hali gets hurt.)

Fisher spent his rookie season either being injured or failing horribly.

DAT is our big shot. If we have him at P/KR for the year I think he's LIKELY to finish a top 10 returner. Not could be, I think it's likely. Notice he doesn't have an injury history. Rookies can and often are productive as returners. It's not a long shot...

Baby Lee 08-13-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10815935)
An AFCCG appearance.

No one's asking you. No one cares.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 10816251)
You ever gonna provide some evidence of this?

49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10816293)
No one's asking you. No one cares.

Someone did, and that's why I posted, dipshit.

Red Dawg 08-13-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10816302)
49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

I think it's safe to say you are a psycho and nothing you said is really accurate.

saphojunkie 08-13-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 10816293)
No one's asking you. No one cares.

Actually, I specifically asked him.

BigMeatballDave 08-13-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10816302)
49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

Simmer down and write another Cassel fluff-piece.

saphojunkie 08-13-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10816282)
It's highly unlikely anyone drafted after the 4th round will come in and be a respectable starter. It's just a rarity. Not impossible, but very unlikely.

Davis is a b/u. Looks like a very solid b/u, but still a b/u. And one with a long injury history. Only started two games last year and by the end of the second was all ****ed up.

Kelce is also coming off a serious injury and this will basically be his rookie year.

Ford is a b/u and rotational player that's horrible vs. the run. At best he's an excellent one dimensional pass rusher and that won't be until next year (unless Hali gets hurt.)

Fisher spent his rookie season either being injured or failing horribly.

DAT is our big shot. If we have him at P/KR for the year I think he's LIKELY to finish a top 10 returner. Not could be, I think it's likely. Notice he doesn't have an injury history. Rookies can and often are productive as returners. It's not a long shot...

You're writing these guys off way too early.

Davis is a b/u... yes, but so was Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles. They all became extremely productive starters after a couple years.

Kelce is basically in his rookie year - exactly why there's still hope.

You are selling Ford wildly short.

Fisher spent his rookie season banged and failing horribly. Hopefully we will see this year if those two things are related.

I think there's still a ton of promise in these young players. Ford, Gaines, Fulton, DAT - all are yet to play a single regular season snap. let's not start talking about how one dimensional and miserable they are.

ViperVisor 08-13-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10816302)
49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

I am a 49ers fan who has watched him for years and for years posted stats showing it is a myth haters pulled out of their ass.

So he holds the ball too long? But also bails out quick in a panic?

Smith only had 18 throwaways last season.

Sandy Vagina 08-13-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10816302)
49ers fans have been saying this since he was signed, dipshit. Did you see the sack he took last week? Ever see him hold the ball too long, panic, and run his ass off to the right sideline to escape the pass rush before chucking it out of bounds? Happens multiple times every game and I want to **** my TV with a bladed strap-on every time it ****ing happens.

He is an indecisive little prick unless someone is immediately wide open. He's a scared chicken shit noodle arm punk and I can't wait until he's cut, traded or retires.

I love that Smith causes you this much pain. It is truly deserved. :thumb:

Rausch 08-13-2014 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10816349)
You're writing these guys off way too early.

Davis is a b/u... yes, but so was Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles. They all became extremely productive starters after a couple years.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm saying he's a b/u. You aren't going to be a top 20 player in this league at b/u HB unless something very bad happens.

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10816349)
You are selling Ford wildly short.

Show me a single scouting report that says Ford was solid in run support.

You're not going to find one. He consistently got washed out. He's the kind of guy you run right at...

John Dope 08-13-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10816363)
I love that Smith causes you this much pain. It is truly deserved. :thumb:

Agreed. The Geno nut huggers really deserve this. The day he gets a five year deal will be the best. I believe it just might break them for good.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor (Post 10816356)
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So he holds the ball too long? But also bails out quick in a panic?

Not quickly. He'll drop back, scan the field, pump fake and then decide he has to run when he should be stepping up and getting rid of it. Then he "extends the play" by running all the way out to the right sideline and either running out of bounds for a loss, running for 1/2 yard or dumping it out of bounds. 1 time out of 10 he might complete a pass.

It's a really annoying thing and he does it every game.

Because he's scared to make a mistake.

Sandy Vagina 08-13-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10816387)
Not quickly. He'll drop back, scan the field, pump fake and then decide he has to run when he should be stepping up and getting rid of it. Then he "extends the play" by running all the way out to the right sideline and either running out of bounds for a loss, running for 1/2 yard or dumping it out of bounds. 1 time out of 10 he might complete a pass.

It's a really annoying thing and he does it every game.

Because he's scared to make a mistake.

- his pocket presence has much improved since the days you are referencing.

- Too often, were the SF/KC receivers too stupid to move their feet and find open space to make themselves a viable target... so he throws it away. He is calculating and weighs consequences vs reward.. sometimes opting to simply punt and try again another drive.

In other words, he is not your girlfriend Tony Romo.. who is definitely brave with all of his throws.. and enjoys throwing games away by being a dumbass.

Oh, and GFY. :thumb:


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