I'm not singling you out but I am just so tired of this bullshit.

There are maybe four "Franchise QB's" in the NFL: Rodgers, Manning, Brady and Luck. That's it. And Manning & Brady have been in the league for 12+ years.

To win a Super Bowl, a team has to be comprised of good players that play well within their system.

Effective, structured, disciplined, minimal-mistake football. "Franchise QB" is a myth created by the NFL Front Office to lure fans into thinking their team needs one to succeed, thus hyping the draft, thus more ad revenues, thus more money in the NFL coffers.

Poe was considered a reach by many and a boom or bust player. NT's aren't "wow" players.

Berry was definitely that guy.

Dee Ford, Baldwin, and Hali were considered reaches by many. Baldwin by most.

The prospect that Berry was is in a whole different tier of player than any of the rest. Many thought Berry had HOF potential.

I think our 1st rounds the last 10 years or so have been a mixed bag but not horrible or worse that most. Definitely not as bad as our run of DL busts...

I'm talking about our current situation at QB.

It would be silly for the Chiefs to take a QB in this draft.

Poe absolutely was a wow player.

At 350 he ran a 4.6 and was unreal in the weight room.

If Poe wasn't wow, nobody has ever been wow.

There are probably 10 franchise QB's out there.

There are franchise guys (solid performers for 6-10 years) and then there are the elite guys.

You don't have to have an elite guy but you do need stability at the position. Rivers would be a lower end Elite or high end franchise guy. Brees, Eli, Big Ben, Ryan, Stafford, etc. All franchise guys who provide stability and competency at the position for years.

You don't need Brady. You also can't shuffle in and out back ups and cast offs every 2 to 3 years like the Chiefs/Raiders/Bengals/Cards have done for 20 years or more...

Poe didn't run a 4.6, did he?

I thought it was like a 4.9

I wouldn't mind Petty if he falls. I'm really not at all impressed with anyone else after the top 2 (and I'm not super impressed with either of them.)

I don't like our options behind Smith but I don't think there are any answers in this years draft either...

yeah, 4.98 seconds

where did you pull that 4.6 out of LMAO

4.6 would have been like ... even more OMG than 4.98 ... he may have been banned from the league due to sheer scariness

Either way he was a combine commando. He did little to nothing in college. He was very raw and boom or bust...

I totally agree with that. I didn't like the pick based off of what happened with Vernon Gholston. But the 4.6 thing just jumped out at me ...

Oh, I was completely wrong about the guy. He's been a beast.

But every arrow other than the combine pointed to possible bust.

No production in college.
HC/Coordinator that constantly moved him around.
He never had a comfort level at any position or an ability to hone technique.

Reaches by morons.

They were all good to great choices.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

There are only a couple of teams that would completely and utterly collapse without their Franchise QB and Cassel's already proven that even without Brady, Belichick can win 11 games in a season.

He played every snap in multiple positions along the defensive line. He went 11th overall. Anyone that thought he was a "boom or bust" guy hadn't done their homework.

Pioli clearly performed his due diligence and hit on the guy. If he hadn't, another team would now have his services and the Chiefs defense would be worse because of it.

Nelson Agholor (USC): "I really think he's pretty similar to Cooper, just a little smaller. Good route runner. Good speed."

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