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RunKC 06-21-2015 09:33 PM

I Also wonder why Andy didn't draft Russell Wilson in round 2 in 2012. He said he loved him. He is a lot like Donovan McNabb as well and would have fit perfectly with the weapons they had.

Andy would have never lost his job tho

notorious 06-21-2015 09:34 PM

This ****ing fanbase doesn't deserve a Superbowl.

-King- 06-21-2015 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11560208)
You're not very good at watching football, bud

In the games Seattle has won since drafting Wilson, the defense has allowed 13.2 points per game.

It would be REALLY hard to **** that up as a quarterback.

Wilson has great potential. But he's not great yet. He's a top 10-12 QB right now. In a year or two, he has the potential to be top 5 but right now he's not.

jonzie04 06-21-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11560169)
Russell Wilson is the best player, THE BEST PLAYER, on the Seahawks. He's not going anywhere. He is a winner and will be recognized as the face of the NFL (with Aaron and Andrew) for the next decade.

This board is so dumb when it comes to QB play.

What? Wilson is a better player than Richard Sherman? :LOL:

-King- 06-21-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11560219)
Unreal.

How?

RunKC 06-21-2015 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 11560232)
What? Wilson is a better player than Richard Sherman? :LOL:

He's the best due to positional value I guess.

Chancellor, Thomas, Wagner and Sherman are all the best players at their position IMO.

Graham and Lynch are "arguably" the best, though most would agree top 3 for sure.

But positional value reigns

Discuss Thrower 06-21-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11560234)
How?

The constant response to Smith criticisms is "All he does is win! If it weren't for Kyle Williams the 49ers would have been in the SB! He was playing great before he got hurt; who cares if he only throws for < 200 yards a game if all he does is win?"

Bring up Russell Wilson who has been to TWO Super Bowls and has been in the playoffs every year he's been in the league and it becomes "Oh, his stats suck. He got carried by Marshawn Lynch and the 'hawks defense."

notorious 06-21-2015 09:43 PM

Nobody disputes that Wilson has a lot of help, but when it comes down to it he is an excellent player that is going to get even better as time passes.

2 1st rounders and 80% guaranteed money is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Hootie 06-21-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11560209)
But he threw for 300 yards IN ONE HALF in a playoff game they lost....

Best playoff performance I've seen

Hootie 06-21-2015 09:46 PM

I am not going to waste time on this

-King- 06-21-2015 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11560241)
The constant response to Smith criticisms is "All he does is win! If it weren't for Kyle Williams the 49ers would have been in the SB! He was playing great before he got hurt; who cares if he only throws for < 200 yards a game if all he does is win?"

Bring up Russell Wilson who has been to TWO Super Bowls and has been in the playoffs every year he's been in the league and it becomes "Oh, his stats suck. He got carried by Marshawn Lynch and the 'hawks defense."

Alex Smith is carried by Charles and the Chiefs defense too. I don't see why the situations are so different. Both are good quarterbacks who can have great games on any given Sunday but for the most part they rely on their defenses and running games to win games.

Once again, it would take a terrible QB to **** up what the Seahawks have done the past few years. If you are a quarterback and you can average 200 yards and 1-2 TDs a game, you're going to win there.

He won a playoff game where he threw 4 INTs. Alex Smith lost a playoff game where he threw 4 TDs. Think about that.

ThaVirus 06-21-2015 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11560229)
In the games Seattle has won since drafting Wilson, the defense has allowed 13.2 points per game.



It would be REALLY hard to **** that up as a quarterback.



Wilson has great potential. But he's not great yet. He's a top 10-12 QB right now. In a year or two, he has the potential to be top 5 but right now he's not.


Rank the top 18 QBs in the league. I'd like to see it.

Mother****erJones 06-21-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 11559820)
Russell Wilson is pedestrian.

I wouldn't give you two second rounders for him.

You're ****ing clueless.

Discuss Thrower 06-21-2015 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11560257)
Alex Smith is carried by Charles and the Chiefs defense too. I don't see why the situations are so different. Both are good quarterbacks who can have great games on any given Sunday but for the most part they rely on their defenses and running games to win games.

Once again, it would take a terrible QB to **** up what the Seahawks have done the past few years. If you are a quarterback and you can average 200 yards and 1-2 TDs a game, you're going to win there.

He won a playoff game where he threw 4 INTs. Alex Smith lost a playoff game where he threw 4 TDs. Think about that.

Cool. Russell Wilson won that 4 INT game by making two 35+ yard passes in one drive -the latter of which was a completion to Kearse who was blanketed.

Alex Smith never throws that pass in that situation.

Mother****erJones 06-21-2015 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11559835)
No. I wouldn't even do that for Luck, and I love me some Andrew Luck.

Wow. You're ****ing dumb. I'd give up my next 10 firsts for luck. He's the QB we've been searching for since Dawson.


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