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lewdog 07-20-2015 07:06 PM
And he's mentally likely out of this.

KChiefs1 07-20-2015 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 11608719)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yordano Ventura is pitching like a man who wants Kris Medlen to appear tonight.</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="https://twitter.com/McCulloughStar/status/623297413839597568">July 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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That would be nice to see.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11608705)
Just ask yourself one thing ... What's harder to hit? 95 or 98?

That 3 MPH makes a world of difference. If Kelvin Herrera threw 95 he'd be useless. Last year, Ventura led baseball in pitches thrown over 98 MPH and led all starters in average MPH fastball

This year? I guarantee he's way down. 95 is hittable. 99 takes luck. The difference between 90 & 95 is one thing, the difference between 95 & 100 is just HUGE
His two seam velocity is 95.7 this year. It was 96.6 last year. He was 96.0 with a four-seamer last year and 94.5 this year.

That could account for some of it, but the increase in the value of his changeup has made him effectively the same pitcher.

jimidollar 07-20-2015 07:07 PM
Looks like we're gonna need more than one SP in a trade.

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 07:08 PM
Yodiva Ventura

tk13 07-20-2015 07:08 PM
People say this shouldn't matter, but Shields made such a difference in this staff. Ventura and Duffy have just not been as mentally sharp without him. Shields just set a good example by going out and grinding every start.

RedDread 07-20-2015 07:08 PM
What is it with this team and having headcase pitchers come up through our system?

Deberg_1990 07-20-2015 07:09 PM
Yordana VenBUSTa

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-20-2015 07:09 PM
LMAO. If Alvarez was a 2nd round pick rather than the 2nd overall pick he would have been DFA'd years ago. He is so terrible.

Hootie 07-20-2015 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11608733)
People say this shouldn't matter, but Shields made such a difference in this staff. Ventura and Duffy have just not been as mentally sharp without him. Shields just set a good example by going out and grinding every start.
I just don't agree. You're telling me Jeremy Guthrie isn't a guy who can keep those kids mentally sharp? Come on. That's garbage. Maybe Shields should have taught some of these assholes his changeup. That would've been nice.

KevB 07-20-2015 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDread (Post 11608734)
What is it with this team and having headcase pitchers come up through our system?
It's a long list

C3HIEF3S 07-20-2015 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 11608733)
People say this shouldn't matter, but Shields made such a difference in this staff. Ventura and Duffy have just not been as mentally sharp without him. Shields just set a good example by going out and grinding every start.
It matters, but there's nothing that could have been done about that. No matter the value that Shields had inside the clubhouse, the Royals giving him a contract like the Padres did just wouldn't have been a good move and would have been an overpay the Royals can't afford. Hopefully we get another veteran presence on the starting staff sooner rather than later.

Dartgod 07-20-2015 07:11 PM
WTF were you doing there?

KevB 07-20-2015 07:11 PM
Hosmer is going to kick his ass

RollChiefsRoll 07-20-2015 07:11 PM
Just... lol


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