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Mr. Laz 11-03-2015 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862182)
Regardless of whether the Chiefs pick #1 or #32, I don't think there's any way that they can pass on a talented QB in the first round.

Point of selection is absolutely no guarantee of success, so as long as they choose a guy that they feel can be a long term starting QB, I'm fine with it.

In the mean time, I want them to win as many games as possible.
Fans have thought that for a long,long time and they keep passing on them.


passing on Bridgewater last year was confusing

After watching Dee Ford struggle, it's even more confusing. Apparently they thought his first step would be enough to build around.

Rausch 11-03-2015 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862260)
Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.
Oh, but we have...

O.city 11-03-2015 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862255)
If you already have a QB you can roll with that.

Alex isn't good enough.
Our line isn't good enough.
Our play calling hasn't been good enough.

Everything looks better after waxing a terrible team. This is the same team that lost to the Vikes and hapless Bears.

Some people wanted Reid gone because of his stubbornness. Clark telling him his job is fine no matter what gives him no reason to change anything. He'll stick with Alex and the same $3it we see this season we'll see next season.

We go 6-10, no big deal, I've got my job...
The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.

KCTitus 11-03-2015 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862260)
I've got a big issue with this. Clark shouldn't be saying anyone is "safe" right now.

We are 3-5 in this regime's third year. That is NOT good.

Clark should be saying that this is disappointing and that we should be better than this, or that we haven't met expectations so far.
I dont expect Clark to say the 'truth' in public statements...I have to assume that Clark is saying 'we can do better than this' in private.

KCTitus 11-03-2015 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11862261)
...passing on Bridgewater last year was confusing...
No spread offense/option QB's for me, thank you. Aside from Wilson, none of them have worked out. Old school pocket passers who play pro style offenses have a greater chance of success in this league.

RealSNR 11-03-2015 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862288)
No spread offense/option QB's for me, thank you. Aside from Wilson, none of them have worked out. Old school pocket passers who play pro style offenses have a greater chance of success in this league.
He didn't come from a spread offense/option system.

And neither did Wilson, for ****'s sake. Neither at NC State OR at Wisconsin.

And there have been a few spread system QBs to work out in the NFL. Rodgers, Romo, McNabb, and Culpepper are a few.

And if you really want to go this far... even Chase Daniel.

They require time and patience. If you draft one in the 1st round and expect them to automatically integrate the new principles they work on in one offseason just for the sake of getting them important snaps so you don't waste their 1st round contract, you're going to get a bad QB.

THAT'S the big difference between the spread QBs who fail and the ones who can find success.

pr_capone 11-03-2015 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11855689)
Give it up. It costs more to cut Alex Smith next season than to keep him.
Really?

It costs the club money to cut him. It costs them the opportunity at a championship, or at least a good playoff run, to play him.

I submit that it is far more costly to keep (starting) him.

The Franchise 11-03-2015 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862288)
No spread offense/option QB's for me, thank you. Aside from Wilson, none of them have worked out. Old school pocket passers who play pro style offenses have a greater chance of success in this league.
Please do some research before you open your mouth.

The Franchise 11-03-2015 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 11862295)
Really?

It costs the club money to cut him. It costs them the opportunity at a championship, or at least a good playoff run, to play him.

I submit that it is far more costly to keep him.
They can designate him a June 1st cut next year and get back $1 million in cap space.

Rausch 11-03-2015 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862273)
It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.
Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...

Rausch 11-03-2015 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862288)
No spread offense/option QB's for me, thank you. Aside from Wilson, none of them have worked out. Old school pocket passers who play pro style offenses have a greater chance of success in this league.
This...

RunKC 11-03-2015 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862273)
The same team as the bears debacle would have gotten beat traveling to London by the Lions.

Whether it's shitty opponents or not, the team is currently playing better than they were a month ago.

The line, qb, play calling etc, is problematic but also a function of each other.

It's no coincidence that as one starts playing better, the other 2 start performing better as well.
Why have we started off poorly the last 2 years and lost to terrible teams with shitty QB's?
















Andy Reid

O.city 11-03-2015 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11862303)
Andy called pretty much the same game vs the Lions he did the rest of the season. The difference was almost everything worked. It was just one of those days.

When we face a real D like Denver it's all going to look like $#it again and we'll be wondering what he did differently. In reality, nothing was any different...
I'm shocked that when we face a defense playing at an all time great level, everything doesn't "work".

Sometimes I think in reality, some people are just morons.

O.city 11-03-2015 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862310)
Why have we started off poorly the last 2 years and lost to terrible teams with shitty QB's?











Andy Reid
What shitty QB's have we lost to this year?

RunKC 11-03-2015 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862314)
What shitty QB's have we lost to this year?
Jay Cutler.

We should not have lost that game.


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