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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12337066)

It's not just numbers, it's that impact being relevant to the cost.

We wouldnt be having this argument if Berry wanted to be paid as the best S in football.

We're having this discussion because he wants almost 20% more than the highest paid safety in football.

I think the dropoff from Eric Berry to a quality replacement is t worth the cost.

People would just say that then, but they don't. We've still got posters here ragging on him for being Gates' bitch. That hasn't been the case in YEARS.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12309466)

We've lined this guy up at SS, FS, CB, and LB- he's played well at each and every position- and somehow he just isn't good enough. Receives first-team All-Pro honors at SS and FS- he's no Ed Reed! For God's sake, one poster was talking about lining him up at LOLB to replace Houston down the stretch!

The concerns about a lack of INTs are overblown. Taking a look at the careers of each of the top safeties in the league today, none of them fare particularly well against Berry in that regard. Throwing out any season in which the player didn't play at least 10 games in a season, Earl Thomas averages 3.5 INTs a season. Kam Chancellor averages 1.7 INTs per season. Harrison Smith averages 3.3 INTs per season. Reshad Jones averages 2.5 INTs per season. Tyrann Mathieu and Devin Mccourty (who both play a shit ton of CB and are really not a good comparison) average 2.7 and 3 INTs per season respectively.

Eric Berry averages 2.5 INTs per season. What's the difference?

Just say putting $10+m into a safety position isn't the best use of resources, because trying to argue against the guy's ability is just asinine.

I prefer Jamaal not to participate in preseason but I am a bit worried about keystone players not getting accustomed to the contact prior to the start of the season. KnowMo's a little shit but he's not entirely wrong.

Thankfully we do have a handful of young guys who can benefit from this situation. I just hope the vets that come back are game-ready week 1.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12337087)

Exactly. This is a good time for all of our young guys/converts to get work, and for us to see what we have there.

Yes but that's if they step up. If Dee Ford doesn't show up week 1 we could lose that game.

We need him to break out

Day 1 of camp, I see we're already ****ed. That didn't take long.

I know it's early to jump off the cliff, but ****ing hell can we not just be all healthy and ready to go into the season?

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12337149)

I know it's early to jump off the cliff, but ****ing hell can we not just be all healthy and ready to go into the season?

Back away.

Other than Houston, everybody is on track to be out there week 1. Berry and Charles are the only other guys that wil be missing camp. If Gurley didn't need to participate in TC as a rookie, I'm sure Charles will be fine. Berry will be motivated and 100%, not to mention he's still better off than he was last year coming off of chemo.

Notes from today's practice:

http://m.chiefs.com/s/30852/322?item...85551145123142

Sounds like Gaines and Murray both had good days today.

Tyreek Hill, Parker Ehinger and Eric Murray will play a lot this year.

The rest probably won't play much if at all unless injury occurs.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12337323)

Tyreek Hill, Parker Ehinger and Eric Murray will play a lot this year.

The rest probably won't play much if at all unless injury occurs.

You're probably right, but I wouldn't be surprised if Jones is used quite a bit in sub packages as a pass rush specialist by mid season.

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 12336982)

Odds are Berry will get hurt this year. Guys who miss training camp typically do.

Go away turd

I love Jones. We lucked out getting that guy in the 2nd. Top 10 talent in my opinion.

Bonus: hilarious.

I wanna see Russell. He balled out when he played.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12337323)

Tyreek Hill, Parker Ehinger and Eric Murray will play a lot this year.

The rest probably won't play much if at all unless injury occurs.

Russell should see playing time, as should Jones.

If Jones isn't in the rotation, then either he sucks or Nick Williams and Nunez-Roches has stepped up big time.

Colts are terrible at safety. Wonder if they'd give up some stuff for berry.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12337429)

Colts are terrible at safety. Wonder if they'd give up some stuff for berry.

Like what? jesus I have a hard time thinking of ANYTHING they I have that I would want.