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beach tribe 08-19-2016 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12375674)
Card is just lucky he's has that oline. He sucked under pressure in college.
He has the worst under pressure rating in the NFL IIRC.

beach tribe 08-19-2016 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12375729)
People who don't believe that a good offense contributes to a better defense have never played sports. It takes significantly more energy to play defense cause you are guessing routes and then covering lots of ground chasing the ball carrier. An offense that can sustain a 5-10 minute drive does wonders in providing rest for the DB's and linebackers.
You are correct....
BUT an offense that can put up points quickly makes the other team 1 dimensional and lets pass rushers pin their ears back.

staylor26 08-19-2016 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12375651)
The number of people that can't resist taking Clay's bait is comical.
Talk shit, then avoid the argument. What a pillowbitergot.

HemiEd 08-19-2016 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12375672)
Admittedly I wasn't around for that


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but, but that was only like yesterday!:eek:

BleedingRed 08-19-2016 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12375735)
You are correct....
BUT an offense that can put up points quickly makes the other team 1 dimensional and lets pass rushers pin their ears back.
That is true as well, however..... A offense that puts up points too fast will really tire its defense out ala Chip Kelly.

Great example is the Dallas Cowboys in 2014. Everyone thought that defense was going to be WORST EVER. But because they could march 80 yards down field in 5-7 minute range their defense got time off.

Turns out the Defense looked alot better then. They are going to duplicate it this year with Zeke The Freak. (Or at least try)

HemiEd 08-19-2016 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 12375721)
Most of us don't like him. He's a douche.
I pretty much just take each poster for what they are and the ones I don't go on ignore. I still have almost the whole 49er bunch on iggy.

I find Clayton gives the board some burst and think he has matured a lot.

Good to see you back posting Jim.

the Talking Can 08-19-2016 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12375651)
The number of people that can't resist taking Clay's bait is comical.
this

beach tribe 08-19-2016 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 12375760)
That is true as well, however..... A offense that puts up points too fast will really tire its defense out ala Chip Kelly.

Great example is the Dallas Cowboys in 2014. Everyone thought that defense was going to be WORST EVER. But because they could march 80 yards down field in 5-7 minute range their defense got time off.

Turns out the Defense looked alot better then. They are going to duplicate it this year with Zeke The Freak. (Or at least try)
Herm Edwards seal of approval.

Chip's teams didnt score too fast, they punted too fast.

BossChief 08-19-2016 08:46 AM
Derek Carr had 10 more scores than Alex Smith.

True, he did.

But he also had 19 combined interceptions (13) and fumbles (6)...when Alex had 10 less by only throwing 7 picks and fumbling twice...and Derek Carr had a much better OL and WRs to throw to.

So Derek Carr had 10 more scores and about 100 more yards (with 50 more attempts)...but also had 10 more turnovers. Almost double the turnovers Alex had.

Alex was better in YPA, rating, QBR, comp %, wins, rushing yards, rushing scores...and did it with lesser WRs and OL.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-19-2016 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12375782)
Derek Carr had 10 more scores than Alex Smith.

True, he did.

But he also had 19 combined interceptions (13) and fumbles (6)...when Alex had 10 less by only throwing 7 picks and fumbling twice...and Derek Carr had a much better OL and WRs to throw to.

So Derek Carr had 10 more scores and about 100 more yards (with 50 more attempts)...but also had 10 more turnovers. Almost double the turnovers Alex had.

Alex was better in YPA, rating, QBR, comp %, wins, rushing yards, rushing scores...and did it with lesser WRs and OL.
:clap:

beach tribe 08-19-2016 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12375782)
Derek Carr had 10 more scores than Alex Smith.

True, he did.

But he also had 19 combined interceptions (13) and fumbles (6)...when Alex had 10 less by only throwing 7 picks and fumbling twice...and Derek Carr had a much better OL and WRs to throw to.

So Derek Carr had 10 more scores and about 100 more yards (with 50 more attempts)...but also had 10 more turnovers. Almost double the turnovers Alex had.

Alex was better in YPA, rating, QBR, comp %, wins, rushing yards, rushing scores...and did it with lesser WRs and OL.
TOs are pretty much on par with TDs.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2016 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12375674)
Card is just lucky he's has that oline. He sucked under pressure in college.
Sucks in the pros against it too....which in the end if it doesn't improve it means he sucks

Pasta Little Brioni 08-19-2016 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12375782)
Derek Carr had 10 more scores than Alex Smith.

True, he did.

But he also had 19 combined interceptions (13) and fumbles (6)...when Alex had 10 less by only throwing 7 picks and fumbling twice...and Derek Carr had a much better OL and WRs to throw to.

So Derek Carr had 10 more scores and about 100 more yards (with 50 more attempts)...but also had 10 more turnovers. Almost double the turnovers Alex had.

Alex was better in YPA, rating, QBR, comp %, wins, rushing yards, rushing scores...and did it with lesser WRs and OL.
The released Clayken hath been slayed

Hammock Parties 08-19-2016 10:28 AM
yeah you got me boy

the Raiders should trade Carr and 2 1sts for Alex right NOW

eDave 08-19-2016 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 12375721)
Most of us don't like him. He's a douche.
Not a bannable offense. I'm glad he's back. It's the hungry fish that make it great.


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