Yeah, but then the mother****er got drunk during the first round and missed his trade-up opportunities.

So all he had left was relatively fungible talent at higher priority positions or the one remaining blue-chipper at a less dynamic spot.

Next time don't pass out and miss the draft, Veach.

But don't tell me that if we allowed trades in this thing.....that you wouldn't have already made your pick around #17-18 and picked Ferrell.

Well yeah, had Veach not passed out around the 5th pick, that's exactly what would've happened (I think...your double negatives confuse me. I'm just a caveman).

I'd have been done with this round a looooong time ago.

Ferrell would be a Chief right now in my world and I'd be doing some serious interviews with Michael Jordan out of OSU to see if he's worth grabbing in the 3rd. I doubt Jenkins would make it that far (hell, he may not see our 2nds) and I'm certain McCoy wouldn't.

I do think OL needs to be addressed in some fashion in the first 2 days.

Might want to forget about Ferrell DJ. Unfortunately I think that guy is a borderline top 15 pick. Hard to see him being there at 20.

The Titans at 19 might be the place to start looking for your trade up if someone you want is falling there.

The 19th pick would be worth about 875, so our first, one of the 2nds and next years 4th would probably get it done.

Problem is our 2nds are so god damn low in the round.

I’ll say it: I’d rather take a WR or TE than a center

Maybe. Even probably.

But there's an interesting thing I've noticed recently - scheme versatility gets guys paid. It gets guys overdrafted, in fact.

And I'm not sure I see Ferrell as being as scheme versatile as some. Now he's absolutely ideal for what it appears we're trying to do, but that doesn't mean much to anyone else's draft board.

But you're right - it just takes one GM in the teens to fall in love and !@#$ us over. But when a guy sure looks like a pure 4-3 player, that takes more teams out of the running that we realize. And it makes some teams that might be considering him (but who may not be sold on their present system for the next 5 years) wary of him as well.

Maybe he'd be a better 3-4 player than I'm giving him credit for, but to me that's a 4-3 DE all day, every day. And that makes the market for him just limited enough that he might slip into our range.

One thing to think about with the 2 2nds would be packaging them together to maybe get up in the top of the 2nd and get someone you like that's falling.

Everyone says that....but everyone forgets that almost half of the GMs in the league are borderline mouth breathers. Guys fall all the time and teams get damn good players at the bottom of the 1st round.

And then you have to factor in that Veach isn't afraid to go get "his guy. It could be the right choice....it could be the wrong choice....but from what we've seen so far....Veach is at the very least....aggressive.

Easy there Matt Millen

Well my options there were Irv Smith, Harry, Butler, or Brown(squared).

Irv Smith's out at that point, I think. And the other 4...well, I only had one pick and I think I'm inclined to just double down on the organizational capital we have already plowed into Hill and Watkins rather than simply look to layer them already.

That could be a bad decision. We shall see.

Somebody should just pick for the Raiders.

Not to sound like a dick, but if you know you have a pick coming up very soon after you just made one, it shouldn’t take this long. If you’re going to be away for a while just send somebody your top 3-5.

you take that back

He'd have probably fisted me again, so I'm glad he's sleeping in...

Veach is so trading up. I just hope he doesn’t use a 2020 1st to do it.

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