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DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 14344941)
Wait, what shit has been flung at Hardman?

Pryor (surprise) dug up 'homophobic' Tweets from him back when he was !@#$ing 13 years old.

She's really a piece of shit.

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 09:24 AM

Here - a secondhand report on it so you don't have to give Pryor a click:

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/...229749379.html

RollChiefsRoll 07-12-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344943)
Brooke dug up some dumb shit he tweeted when he was a teenager.

Oh, that's interesting. He gets that in April and then a puff piece in June.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs WR Mecole Hardman on homophobic tweets sent when he was a teen: <br><br>&quot;That’s not who I am today.<br><br>“It’s a really immature decision on my part to even tweet anything like that.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/vYpkl8fIdZ">https://t.co/vYpkl8fIdZ</a></p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1121966445255172102?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs rookie Mecole Hardman is a lot of things to a lot of people: son, brother, football star, wide receiver, second-round draft pick.<br><br>To the special needs students in Elbert County, Georgia, he&#39;s a true friend. <a href="https://t.co/9IDJvxgcj9">https://t.co/9IDJvxgcj9</a></p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1144250016464363521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Discuss Thrower 07-12-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14344946)
Pryor (surprise) dug up 'homophobic' Tweets from him back when he was !@#$ing 13 years old.

She's really a piece of shit.

Not that I want to white knight Pryor here, but ever since Hader and Trubisky, pro agents need to tell these dipshits to completely nuke their social media presences.

Mecca 07-12-2019 09:25 AM

That's who Brooke Pryor is, her first big break came from basically covering Joe Mixon being a piece of shit so she will always be looking for that...She probably has a lot of personal disdain for the Chiefs organization if you've ever listened to her personal views of womens issues.

Discuss Thrower 07-12-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14344953)
That's who Brooke Pryor is, her first big break came from basically covering Joe Mixon being a piece of shit so she will always be looking for that...She probably has a lot of personal disdain for the Chiefs organization if you've ever listened to her personal views of womens issues.

She has a personal disdain for the sport of football.

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14344951)
Not that I want to white knight Pryor here, but ever since Hader and Trubisky, pro agents need to tell these dipshits to completely nuke their social media presences.

Sure.

Because pondscum like Brooke Pryor will go looking to dig it up.

Rain Man 07-12-2019 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 14344868)
The latter.

The Espinals could prove themselves to be totally non-credible and they'd still take their word over all others in order to protect their narrative.

I don't know if there's a legal reason to not back off, too. Their lawyers may be telling them that they're open for a lawsuit if they back off, so they're doubling down.

In my previous consulting life, I distinctly remember a meeting where I was a consultant in the room, and there was a lawyer and a client talking. There was an error in a report that was obvious and agreed-on by all parties, but the lawyer's client didn't want to change the report because it would make the report more vulnerable to legal challenge, and the report was controversial. The conversation went something like this.

Client: We need to correct the report.

Lawyer: Nope. The report is done.

Client: But there's an error in it. It needs to be corrected.

Lawyer: Nope.

Client: But the report is recommending actions based on faulty data. Correcting the data changes the recommendations.

Lawyer: But the report is done and it's not being changed. Therefore, the recommendations stand.

Client: But we all agree that the analysis has an error in it, and we all agree that the report therefore contains recommendations that are incorrect as a result. And we paid for the report.

Lawyer: Doesn't matter. The report is done.

It was pretty eye-opening to watch. The consultant doing the report and their attorney didn't care about doing the right thing. They only cared about not admitting that they were wrong and having their work called into question, even though everyone in the room already knew their work was wrong.

Rain Man 07-12-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14344946)
Pryor (surprise) dug up 'homophobic' Tweets from him back when he was !@#$ing 13 years old.

She's really a piece of shit.

Holy cow. That's amazing.

Being a celebrity these days is tough. You have people gunning for you the second you emerge.

Lprechaun 07-12-2019 09:30 AM

Trust me, she’s doing her job my man - chill. KC sports fans are very lucky to have so many great reporters covering their teams.
Terez on Pryor SMH

Mecca 07-12-2019 09:30 AM

They want their pound of flesh, Pryor really does because I'm sure she thinks the Chiefs organization needs to be cleaned up. I bet if she was off the record she would likely tell you how ****ed up it is we got rid of good guys like Houston and Berry to bring in a shithead like Clark..

I hope he is smart here because she is going to be sniffing around him constantly.

ptlyon 07-12-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14344958)
I don't know if there's a legal reason to not back off, too. Their lawyers may be telling them that they're open for a lawsuit if they back off, so they're doubling down.

In my previous consulting life, I distinctly remember a meeting where I was a consultant in the room, and there was a lawyer and a client talking. There was an error in a report that was obvious and agreed-on by all parties, but the lawyer's client didn't want to change the report because it would make the report more vulnerable to legal challenge, and the report was controversial. The conversation went something like this.

Client: We need to correct the report.

Lawyer: Nope. The report is done.

Client: But there's an error in it. It needs to be corrected.

Lawyer: Nope.

Client: But the report is recommending actions based on faulty data. Correcting the data changes the recommendations.

Lawyer: But the report is done and it's not being changed. Therefore, the recommendations stand.

Client: But we all agree that the analysis has an error in it, and we all agree that the report therefore contains recommendations that are incorrect as a result. And we paid for the report.

Lawyer: Doesn't matter. The report is done.

It was pretty eye-opening to watch. The consultant doing the report and their attorney didn't care about doing the right thing. They only cared about not admitting that they were wrong and having their work called into question, even though everyone in the room already knew their work was wrong.

And that's when you whipped out some sick kung-fu action on them?

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14344958)
I don't know if there's a legal reason to not back off, too. Their lawyers may be telling them that they're open for a lawsuit if they back off, so they're doubling down.

In my previous consulting life, I distinctly remember a meeting where I was a consultant in the room, and there was a lawyer and a client talking. There was an error in a report that was obvious and agreed-on by all parties, but the lawyer's client didn't want to change the report because it would make the report more vulnerable to legal challenge, and the report was controversial. The conversation went something like this.

Client: We need to correct the report.

Lawyer: Nope. The report is done.

Client: But there's an error in it. It needs to be corrected.

Lawyer: Nope.

Client: But the report is recommending actions based on faulty data. Correcting the data changes the recommendations.

Lawyer: But the report is done and it's not being changed. Therefore, the recommendations stand.

Client: But we all agree that the analysis has an error in it, and we all agree that the report therefore contains recommendations that are incorrect as a result. And we paid for the report.

Lawyer: Doesn't matter. The report is done.

It was pretty eye-opening to watch. The consultant doing the report and their attorney didn't care about doing the right thing. They only cared about not admitting that they were wrong and having their work called into question, even though everyone in the room already knew their work was wrong.

There are certain circumstances where that's absolutely right. In those cases, the idea is that you can't unring the bell and by taking action to alter it, you're both bringing attention to the violation and tacitly conceding that there was violation in the first place (though there are some evidentiary rules that can sometimes keep out 'remedial acts' as evidence; there are ways around those).

Once some sort of violation has occurred, it's occurred. You have a couple of approaches - concede the violation and look to mitigate the damages, or double down on defending the violation itself in the hopes that you avoid damages outright.

The Star and TV5 are clearly going after the latter. The Star will probably face no legal consequences here because what they've done is shady, but doesn't rise to the level of actual malice, IMO. But TV5 has a pretty damn tough road in front of them. They knowingly published manipulated audio to paint a particular picture. Now they have their stooge out there calling it non-newsworthy and an editorial decision, but I don't think that'll stand.

I think they engaged in textbook defamation. And the moment they apologize for it, they'll have little in the way of a dispute even if it could mitigate some damages for them. But those damages are gonna be big numbers either way in the event defamation is found so rather than attempt to mitigate, they're gonna dig in and attempt to avoid defamation outright.

Eleazar 07-12-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14344957)
Sure.

Because pondscum like Brooke Pryor will go looking to dig it up.

I don't understand how you can publicly flog someone for stuff they said when they were 13.

But, we encourage this media culture by rewarding them with clicks, mentions, replies, threads on CP, etc.

Even if someone deleted their social media accounts there are still sites out there that catalog it all. For an athlete or a public figure, the only winning move with social media is not to play.

siberian khatru 07-12-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344732)
That's great, buddy.

Heads need to roll.


I'm trying to inform you so you don't embarrass yourself -- this "I bet Brooke Pryor wrote this!" crap. Make your arguments more informed so they carry more weight.

It's like saying the Chiefs need to hit more home runs.


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