Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14451956)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones vs Raiders in Week 2:<br><br>1 sack<br>6 pressures<br>1 PBU<br>1 run stop for no gain<br><br>That&#39;s a dominant afternoon against an offense that wanted to get the ball out in 2.1 seconds on average.</p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1173622843474677760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a dominant game. I'm gonna guess he gets doubled and such too.

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14451824)

Chiefs sacked Carr 3 times and only gave up 198 yards passing. I don't care about individual stats as much as i care about giving up only 10 points and winning by 18.

I mean we shut them out for 3 quarters in a game they were trailing by 3 scores in by the second half. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 14452030)

This and also to me we played 2 run first offenses. The Defense held up rather well to the smash mouth football. Clark looks like a good reason why they looked better against the run. Last years dee does not hold this Raiders team to 10 points.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14451815)

Burn that strawman down.

"Stats don't tell the whole story" is obviously a different statement than "Stats are worthless", but go on.

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 14452239)

It blows my mind that people want to see individual stats above good team defense.

If Frank Clark helps this team win a championship, he's worth every penny.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14452151)

Almost every single pass rush in this clip has Clark either getting chipped by a RB/receiver or doubled with a guard.

The few times at the end when he wasn’t was a designed quick pass (our 2 INT’s) and the one he almost got a sack on at 7:10...but was again a quick release.

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 14452385)

I don't think Frank Clark has been bad the first two games but it's true that he hasn't made too many splash plays.

Chris Jones did against the Raiders and was dominant.

But really, even most great players go through phases where for stretches they play amazing, other stretches they play good to great and a few games they play just OK.

Clark doesn't have any sack but then Von Miller doesn't have any either.

I am sure Frank Clark is going to have great games and many splash plays soon.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14452480)

Listen, I would argue that Jones made a couple of splash plays but Clark played a better game.

The long Jacobs run went right through Jones' hole. Several times, he was not controlling his gap.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying Jones isn't a great player. He does sometimes go for the big play and whiff, though.

Clark is more consistent on a play by play basis.

Glad to have them both.

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 14452728)

Yeah I'd have to watch the game again to confirm, but there was a running play to the right side and I'm pretty sure it's Jones on roller skates. Just completely washed out.

Jones is a ****ing enigma. He's dominant at times but he takes plays off and I have questions about him being a team player. I might be the only one here who's hesitant to give him a big contract. I understand his value as an interior pass rusher, but I also understand his flaws. I can't remember ever being more torn on a player.