Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14484090)

From Week 9 through Week 17 of the 2018 season, only Patrick Mahomes, Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Ryan had more touchdown passes than Baker Mayfield’s 19. Only Mahomes, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson had a higher Adjusted Yards Per Pass Attempt than Mayfield’s 8.65, and no passing offense was better, per Football Outsiders’ DVOA (opponent-adjusted efficiency metric) than Cleveland’s.

Tempo is another issue. Last season, per Football Outsiders, the Browns ranked fifth in average seconds per offensive play — in other words, using pace to dictate to a defense and to prevent that defense from substituting personnel and creating the situational advantages. This season, the Browns rank 20th, and they’ve gone from 26.99 seconds to 29.05 seconds per offensive play. Adding to the problems, in spite of taking longer to snap the ball, the Browns are using significantly less pre-snap motion, taking away a key to deciphering the defense. The Browns used a lot more pre-snap motion last year, giving Baker a lot more information on the defensive scheme prior to each snap.

The tape backs this up conclusively, as do the stats. Per Pro Football Focus, Mayfield has completed 67.9% of his passes with three touchdowns, two interceptions and a passer rating of 92.3 on pass plays in which he’s in the pocket less than 2.5 seconds. On longer-developing plays in which he’s in the pocket 2.5 seconds or more, he’s thrown for no touchdowns with three interceptions, and he has a passer rating of 48.0. Through the first three games, Mayfield has been involved in longer-developing plays 51.7% of the time.

Bottom line, Baker can be accurate and efficient, IF someone calls the correct plays, IF more pre-snap motion is involved, and IF the OL plays even marginally better.

Those are the facts, Jack...

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14484242)

Dorsey ignored what Andy Reid has done all of his career (build the trenches) and got himself a small corner with injury issues, then traded for a headache WR. It’s his fault the Browns don’t have tackles worth a shit.

Oh and that OL he drafted..Austin Corbett? That guy is a backup and he was taken inside the top 35 picks.

Dorsey hires Kitchens, drafted Mayfield and made all of the other personnel moves.

He was depicted as much more than he really is. Andy is the reason for that still is to this day.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14484634)

People have been talking shit about him since Day 1. You might say he has a reason to be a bit insecure.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14484242)

Dorsey ignored what Andy Reid has done all of his career (build the trenches) and got himself a small corner with injury issues, then traded for a headache WR. It’s his fault the Browns don’t have tackles worth a shit.

Oh and that OL he drafted..Austin Corbett? That guy is a backup and he was taken inside the top 35 picks.

Dorsey hires Kitchens, drafted Mayfield and made all of the other personnel moves.

He was depicted as much more than he really is. Andy is the reason for that still is to this day.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14484613)

That's a stretch and a half. As I've said before, the biggest culprit is haslem. The haslems refused to fire hue Jackson because he was a close family friend. Because of that, hue had to be fired and they ended up hiring a reject coach who had a Romeo like mid-season turnaround. Shitty coach who took another coach's team to a strong second half. Sure Dorsey deserves blame for relying on kitchens. But i don't think he was left with much of a choice considering how popular kitchens was with Mayfield.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14484648)

Poor ****ing guy. He was only the number 1 overall pick. He's been hurt so much

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 14484667)

If he plays better no one will be talking. Outside of beating crap teams I don't see much that leads me to believe he's anything but average.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14484613)

That's a stretch and a half. As I've said before, the biggest culprit is haslem. The haslems refused to fire hue Jackson because he was a close family friend. Because of that, hue had to be fired and they ended up hiring a reject coach who had a Romeo like mid-season turnaround. Shitty coach who took another coach's team to a strong second half. Sure Dorsey deserves blame for relying on kitchens. But i don't think he was left with much of a choice considering how popular kitchens was with Mayfield.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14484703)

He let some success last year and the talking heads inflate his ego. He needs to focus on playing and not spend so much time getting into arguments on Twitter, like he's some high school girl.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14485014)

His ego has been heavily inflated for a long time. Parents spoiled him.

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 14485032)

Huge Douche.....He brings 110% criticism on himself......
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