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thabear04 02-10-2020 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 14789009)
:clap: I think Wilson needs to stay and Colquitt has had a very nice run but it is time.

Unless Colquitt retires since he finally got a ring.

jimidollar 02-10-2020 05:19 PM

We shouldn't be paying $5 for a punter.

Prison Bitch 02-10-2020 05:53 PM

There is zero reason to bring back Jones and only a slight chance it even happens. He’s long gone and for good reason. Dude will totally turn into a pumpkin if he gets his cash

MOhillbilly 02-10-2020 06:09 PM

I would absolutely trade him and his cap number for picks.

BossChief 02-10-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 14788467)
He's already won a Super Bowl. That ship is sailed, he's a household name now. Worst case he's firmly in that Marino, Rodgers, Farve camp, and they have no problem getting endorsements.

I just don't see any way Mahomes doesn't get the biggest contract ever. Everyone compares to Brady but he only started taking discounts later, his first big contract wasn't a discount.

Mahomes turns down numerous endorsements so he has enough time to focus on his skills as a football player.

In fact, he’s done that since before he took a single preseason rookie snap.

Money isn’t the driving factor in his mind. Winning is.

If he signs a new deal soon, it will be for barely more than Russels deal...but I don’t think the deal will get done till the new CBA does and that will help both sides max their potential.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-10-2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14788962)
I wouldn’t say that at all. Jones plays a more valuable position but he isn’t as accomplished or as flexible IMO.

Clark has averaged double-digit sacks a season in the 4 years he’s been a starter. He can destroy any TE (see Kittle from the SB), he can rush inside or outside and he’s a more complete player.

Jones is excellent at rushing from inside, but he’s not that great of a run stuffer and only has half the amount of years accomplished as Frank does. Frank also has a dawg’s mentality which was crucial for this defense mentally.

It’s very close, but I see why they traded for Frank despite having to pay Jones.

If both are healthy it’s a close call. Jones is more of a unicorn given his position. I think he was better against the run this year and his ability to bat passes down is real. But healthy Clark is a special player and I think there’s a reason why Louis Riddick said that some viewed him as a top 3 edge defender when KC traded for him. He’s a force multiplier, does it all and makes others around him better with his demeanor.

Doesn’t matter for us, if they’re keeping only one, it’s definitely Clark.

Chiefshrink 02-10-2020 06:59 PM

You meant Andy wants to keep Chris right ?? Just remember who is calling the shots here.:p

Megatron96 02-10-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14789146)
There is zero reason to bring back Jones and only a slight chance it even happens. He’s long gone and for good reason. Dude will totally turn into a pumpkin if he gets his cash

How do you know this? You peek at his diary or something?

Walt White 02-10-2020 07:56 PM

If we sign a vet for like half his price or less to step in. Plus getting a 1st rounder and another pick who could be a starters for cheap. Plus the extra cap to possibly sign another starter or two.

As good as he is and as much as I wish he could stay, it would be hard to pass up a deal when we get that much value in return. Even if we do a bunch of moves to create extra cap, it should all probably be spread around for depth.

Either way, we have to be signing players to smart deals for the future. I'm not saying Chris Jones contract wouldn't be fair price if we kept him. I'm just saying even with the extra cap created, everyone we bring in needs to be on a good deal if we want to maximize value and protect the future of the team.

Kidd Lex 02-10-2020 08:38 PM

Jones is almost certainly gone. We need the draft capital, and the cap room. We must hit on those picks.

Red Dawg 02-10-2020 08:43 PM

We can't afford Jones. It's that simple.

BWillie 02-10-2020 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14789002)
Because you’re a ****ing moron.

Simply posing the question. We would take a cap hit even if traded?

Walt White 02-10-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis (Post 14789426)
Jones is almost certainly gone. We need the draft capital, and the cap room. We must hit on those picks.

We could make it happen if we wanted to. It just seems unlikely that it would be to the benefit of the team.

But all that depends on how we spend the capital that we get in return. If we spread the money out wisely, we should be better overall. If the market dries up and we miss out on FA targets, that would be tough in the short term. Or if we are left overpaying a couple FA's, that wouldn't be better than keeping Jones.

There is a risk either way. They have to make sure to hit on the free agents. And obviously the draft picks but that is important regardless. Hopefully free agents will want to come to KC so that wouldn't be a problem.

The Franchise 02-10-2020 10:17 PM

Would you trade Jones and the #32 pick to the Dolphins for their #18 pick and a 3rd rounder this year?

Iowanian 02-10-2020 10:20 PM

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I can't embed this for some reason but it's a must watch on this topic


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